Anthony Joshua v Carlos Takam 28 October 2017

[Ron Swanson]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

[Master]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

[El Kabong]

Joshua should handle Pulev very easily, should be over in a few rounds really.

Wilder-Ortiz should be a good fight, SHOULD be, but for whatever reason I am not confident it will actually happen. Should the fight happen there's a good chance (only good) that Ortiz lures Wilder in and bombs him out a la a fight Wilder's trainer should know very much about Mark Breland vs Marlon Starling.



As for Tyson Fury, he's no longer a boxer, he's a drug addict and fat ass sooooo yeah no one cares what he's saying

[Batman]

As for Tyson Fury, he's no longer a boxer, he's a drug addict and fat ass sooooo yeah no one cares what he's saying

Turson Fury will be back and he will KO AJ, Wilder, Parker, Ortiz and any other fucker that comes near him, he won't even bother with Haye because Haye fucked around and missed his chance.

Trust me Fury will be back.

And he's not a drug addict, although he had high levels of some shit or another that was cuz he ate hedgehogs and he isn't fat he's just big boned

....is what Ross would say

[Alpha]

Tyson Fury is a bum who got lucky one night And then ran into retirement before getting exposed.Tyson won a decision against a very flat Wladimir In one of the worst championship fights you'll ever see.At this stage he's irrelevant so he can keep talkingWhile AJ and Wilder both keep winning and making money.

Yep. Wilder WILL fight Ortiz in November, which is amazing. Makes Joshua look a lil bad, but Joshua just KO'd Wlad, which is still much better than anything Wilder has done, though I do like him as well. Joshua is #1 in my book until he's beaten.

The Wilder/ Ortiz fight is not official yet as Wilder has not signed the contract. If it happens it might get pushed to 2018.

[El Kabong]

Tyson Fury is a bum who got lucky one night And then ran into retirement before getting exposed.Tyson won a decision against a very flat Wladimir In one of the worst championship fights you'll ever see.At this stage he's irrelevant so he can keep talkingWhile AJ and Wilder both keep winning and making money.

Yep. Wilder WILL fight Ortiz in November, which is amazing. Makes Joshua look a lil bad, but Joshua just KO'd Wlad, which is still much better than anything Wilder has done, though I do like him as well. Joshua is #1 in my book until he's beaten.

The Wilder/ Ortiz fight is not official yet as Wilder has not signed the contract. If it happens it might get pushed to 2018.

I don't want to crap on that fight but I have a very strong feeling of either Wilder gets injured or Ortiz gets popped for PEDs.....no reason, no evidence, just a gut feeling. I honestly hope to hell that fight happens and it's the best thing ever, but that feeling just won't leave.

[Ron Swanson]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

So you are suggesting Valuev was better than 2 men that beat him. I know you enjoy being different but the conversation has no sense.

[palmerq]

Tony thompson was going well at that time and would have won pretty easily against valuev on the scorecards... well depending o the judges i guess

[Master]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

So you are suggesting Valuev was better than 2 men that beat him. I know you enjoy being different but the conversation has no sense.

That was after the event, you said name top 5 fighters that Haye fought and I said Valuev was one at the time.

I know you like being a pain in the ass but keep up.

[Ron Swanson]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

So you are suggesting Valuev was better than 2 men that beat him. I know you enjoy being different but the conversation has no sense.

That was after the event, you said name top 5 fighters that Haye fought and I said Valuev was one at the time.

I know you like being a pain in the ass but keep up.

Keep up? How exactly am I supposed to keep up with you changing what I said until after you change what I said? You are saying I said "name top 5 fighters that Haye fought" and I never said that. I said Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. But even with you changing what I said you are wrong. Did you think Valuev was better than Haye? If not you should have Haye rated higher, if so then you don't know what you are talking about. Haye was much better because Valuev wasn't top 5 good.

[Master]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

So you are suggesting Valuev was better than 2 men that beat him. I know you enjoy being different but the conversation has no sense.

That was after the event, you said name top 5 fighters that Haye fought and I said Valuev was one at the time.

I know you like being a pain in the ass but keep up.

Keep up? How exactly am I supposed to keep up with you changing what I said until after you change what I said? You are saying I said "name top 5 fighters that Haye fought" and I never said that. I said Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. But even with you changing what I said you are wrong. Did you think Valuev was better than Haye? If not you should have Haye rated higher, if so then you don't know what you are talking about. Haye was much better because Valuev wasn't top 5 good.

You really like to make a tangle of this.

Obviously Haye was better than Valuev because he beat him but before he beat him valuev must have been a top 5 fighter at the time, not in retrospect.

[Batman]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

So you are suggesting Valuev was better than 2 men that beat him. I know you enjoy being different but the conversation has no sense.

That was after the event, you said name top 5 fighters that Haye fought and I said Valuev was one at the time.

I know you like being a pain in the ass but keep up.

Keep up? How exactly am I supposed to keep up with you changing what I said until after you change what I said? You are saying I said "name top 5 fighters that Haye fought" and I never said that. I said Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. But even with you changing what I said you are wrong. Did you think Valuev was better than Haye? If not you should have Haye rated higher, if so then you don't know what you are talking about. Haye was much better because Valuev wasn't top 5 good.

You really like to make a tangle of this.

Obviously Haye was better than Valuev because he beat him but before he beat him valuev must have been a top 5 fighter at the time, not in retrospect.

I don't think that Valuev would have been ranked higher than Haye at the time, wasn't Haye expected to win that fight quite easily, Valuev just gained a lot of publicity because of the freak show aspect of the fight, it was a while back now so I could be wrong.

I think that at the point of that point I actually quite liked David Haye, you know before he turned into an absolute freak show himself and became quite possibly the biggest cunt in the game

[Ron Swanson]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

So you are suggesting Valuev was better than 2 men that beat him. I know you enjoy being different but the conversation has no sense.

That was after the event, you said name top 5 fighters that Haye fought and I said Valuev was one at the time.

I know you like being a pain in the ass but keep up.

Keep up? How exactly am I supposed to keep up with you changing what I said until after you change what I said? You are saying I said "name top 5 fighters that Haye fought" and I never said that. I said Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. But even with you changing what I said you are wrong. Did you think Valuev was better than Haye? If not you should have Haye rated higher, if so then you don't know what you are talking about. Haye was much better because Valuev wasn't top 5 good.

You really like to make a tangle of this.

Obviously Haye was better than Valuev because he beat him but before he beat him valuev must have been a top 5 fighter at the time, not in retrospect.

You're the one making a tangle. Changing words. Not answering simple questions.

It isn't about retrospective if you knew beforehand. I knew Haye would win. Everyone I know knew Haye would win. Did you or did you not know Haye would win?

I'm trying to type very slow so you can get it. If you knew Haye would win as everyone else did you should rate Haye higher as everyone else did

At that time and before