Before Wilder/Joshua...

[ykdadamaja]

Wilder is 38-0, is already champion, and is already 31. How much longer do we need to wait?

On him? Not at all. But on fight fans receiving it as a MEGA MUST SEE ONCE IN A LIFETIME FIGHT? This needs a bit more....

Where are the good promoters these days? All of Haymon fighters seem to be under-pushed!? Sure, they get a lot of the business done. But, they are always "the other guy", except for Floyd Mayweather.

I agree that this potential MEGA fight should be getting a lot more push than it is.
Promoters nowadays aren't worth a damn.

Say what you will about Don King, but at least he know how to promote.

Spot on with King. You FELT the fight before it happened. Even most recently: You FELT Stiverne vs Arreola even before it happened the first time. You had a sense of it's importance and significance. Even better that the first one literally set up the second one where it was more than what we anticipated. And those two guys weren't even that high up on King's list of guys he brought to the public eye.

You can FEEL a King fight. But nowadays, you can't feel anything. Even Bob Arum was halfway decent. But now, it's like... bleh!!!

[Alpha]

I heard Wilder wasn't happy with the November 4th date as hasn't signed the contract. Fight might get pushed to 2018 if it happens at all.

Rumour has it Jacob's vs Lee could be on the undercard of Wilder/ Ortiz.

[Batman]

In all fairness I'd rather scrap the mandatory defenses and all that bollocks and throw them in against each other tomorrow

They are the holders, they are supposedly the best, they should be fighting the best.

I know that it isn't their fault but I'd rather see AJ v Wilder now rather than in 18 months time

[TitoFan]

Wilder is 38-0, is already champion, and is already 31. How much longer do we need to wait?

On him? Not at all. But on fight fans receiving it as a MEGA MUST SEE ONCE IN A LIFETIME FIGHT? This needs a bit more....

Where are the good promoters these days? All of Haymon fighters seem to be under-pushed!? Sure, they get a lot of the business done. But, they are always "the other guy", except for Floyd Mayweather.

I agree that this potential MEGA fight should be getting a lot more push than it is.
Promoters nowadays aren't worth a damn.

Say what you will about Don King, but at least he know how to promote.

Spot on with King. You FELT the fight before it happened. Even most recently: You FELT Stiverne vs Arreola even before it happened the first time. You had a sense of it's importance and significance. Even better that the first one literally set up the second one where it was more than what we anticipated. And those two guys weren't even that high up on King's list of guys he brought to the public eye.

You can FEEL a King fight. But nowadays, you can't feel anything. Even Bob Arum was halfway decent. But now, it's like... bleh!!!

I used to think of King and Arum as snake oil salesmen. Now I wish we had a few of those still around.

[Alpha]

Shaefer fits that bill. Oscar to an extent.

[Master]

In a way with the right marketing and "marinating" this could break the ppv record especially if AJ fought in USA before he meets Wilder.

I would be glad to see Floyd's record broken so quickly.

[GaMo]

In a way with the right marketing and "marinating" this could break the ppv record especially if AJ fought in USA before he meets Wilder.

I would be glad to see Floyd's record broken so quickly.

Is Wilder even PPV in the states?

[palmerq]

In a way with the right marketing and "marinating" this could break the ppv record especially if AJ fought in USA before he meets Wilder.

I would be glad to see Floyd's record broken so quickly.

Is Wilder even PPV in the states?

No and he isnt a big attraction either, that is why he usually fights in alabama. Wilder v Josua certainly won't break any ppv records in america, maybe britain, it is possible it wouldn't even be on ppv, boxing popularity is certainly on the slide in north america, i dont think wilder will ever be a ppv star in america unless he wins all four belts and even then......

[powerpuncher]

Wilder isn't that big of a name. If he beats Ortiz next then there is no reason to wait anymore. I just doubt that Wilder is getting anymore popular than he is without beating AJ.

On the flip side, AJ is popular over in the U.K. but I believe that he won't hit superstardom without beating Wilder and proving without a doubt that he is the best HW in the world.

[Fenster]

Any fans peddling the "it needs to marinate" line deserves to be shot. Fact. It's nothing but bullshit promoter spiel.

Why the fuck do you care about how much money the fighters make? One million not enough? 5 million? 10 million? Who cares whether it breaks PPV records? Who cares whether or not "casual" fans are interested? That's what Floyd-McGregor was all about, for fucks sake.

Joshua can sell out any stadium in Britain against ANYONE on the planet (70,000 Pulev tickets sold in ONE DAY). He's doing over a million UK PPV. HBO and Showtime are tripping over themselves competing for his services. (only Canelo can match the current dough Joshua generates and that's with Vegas behind him).

There's not a shred of evidence in the history of boxing that MORE MONEY equates to BETTER FIGHT.

[Fenster]

$1.5million covered the ENTIRE. Repeat. ENTIRE purses for the Superfly card last week.

Choco/Inoue/ThaiwangSri/Estrada/Cuadras/Viloria etc - just over a million bucks.

And you casual fan muppets want to give millionaires that already get paid fortunes excuses to not make fights. Unreal.

[Alpha]

Yeah marinating is sh-t, building towards a fight though I can understand. Aj/ Pulev winner vs Wilder/ Ortiz winner makes for a good fight. Or the current Cruiser and Super Middle tournaments that will lead to the last 2 (4) fighting leads to hopefully an exciting anticipated match up. Thing with the tournaments tho is we know we will get the winners fighting (barring injuries). With marinating there's no real guarantee.

[Spicoli]

I must be slower than initially informed..is this fight made. Wilder needs AJ more if honest and would love to see him drop his trinket in the garbage and pursue AJ aka a challenge instead of moaning, rightfully so, about Stiverne mandatory. Best vs best shocker I know. But that's his market tag but I get the feel it's all passing him by. Joshua has the options and frankly isn't fighting late replacements in some Alabama sports arena.

[Ron Swanson]

In a way with the right marketing and "marinating" this could break the ppv record especially if AJ fought in USA before he meets Wilder.

I would be glad to see Floyd's record broken so quickly.

This is why you aren't supposed to eat paint chips

[Primo Carnera]

In a way with the right marketing and "marinating" this could break the ppv record especially if AJ fought in USA before he meets Wilder.

I would be glad to see Floyd's record broken so quickly.

I admire your tenacity. Sneaking Floyd into the thread like that! #missinghim #cantlivewithouthim!!! 😂😂😂