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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    This is easily the most significant boxing history fight in recent times.

    Canelo, for all that hardcore/nerds think of him, is the biggest star in America (ignoring Floyd's sparring sessions), his TV numbers/PPV and gates (50,000 with no-names like Liam Smith) currently destroy everyone else (he's the only guy in town doing a million PPV buys and filling up Vegas casinos).

    Golovkin will cement his place amongst the greats by having a "star" on his ledger. Hagler, Hopkins and to a lesser extent, being a Brit, Calzaghe, spent years as great dominant champions without a "star" name to make them crossover (they were all b-side too in their breakout fight). Golovkin wins he becomes a bonafide HOF all-time great, loses he is forever known as an overrated Euro hype job.
    I think that results tend to make fights more significant. For example, if Canelo won, it could become a very significant fight. If GGG wins and Canelo never really makes it in the MW division then this fight turns into not much.

    IMO ward vs Kovalev fight was much more significant. Both fighters were better than GGG and Canelo and IMO was for best fighter in the world.
    Beating a current "star" far outweighs the benefit of beating a legit threat when it comes to general historical significance.

    Danny Jacobs may well be a far superior middleweight threat than Canelo, however, should Golovkin win it will be his standout dish. The fight people bring up first. Again, just look at the history of boxing - Hagler, Hopkins, Barrera, Lewis etc. I could name dozens of all-time greats remembered for their most high-profile wins not necessarily best.

    Ward-Kovalev was much smaller in terms of it's appeal to the general boxing/sports fan. Seriously, this dwarfs it in terms of business (gate/TV numbers/worldwide appeal). You can probably argue it was between "better," higher rated fighters though. But that's personal preference.
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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    This is easily the most significant boxing history fight in recent times.

    Canelo, for all that hardcore/nerds think of him, is the biggest star in America (ignoring Floyd's sparring sessions), his TV numbers/PPV and gates (50,000 with no-names like Liam Smith) currently destroy everyone else (he's the only guy in town doing a million PPV buys and filling up Vegas casinos).

    Golovkin will cement his place amongst the greats by having a "star" on his ledger. Hagler, Hopkins and to a lesser extent, being a Brit, Calzaghe, spent years as great dominant champions without a "star" name to make them crossover (they were all b-side too in their breakout fight). Golovkin wins he becomes a bonafide HOF all-time great, loses he is forever known as an overrated Euro hype job.
    I think that results tend to make fights more significant. For example, if Canelo won, it could become a very significant fight. If GGG wins and Canelo never really makes it in the MW division then this fight turns into not much.

    IMO ward vs Kovalev fight was much more significant. Both fighters were better than GGG and Canelo and IMO was for best fighter in the world.
    Beating a current "star" far outweighs the benefit of beating a legit threat when it comes to general historical significance.

    Danny Jacobs may well be a far superior middleweight threat than Canelo, however, should Golovkin win it will be his standout dish. The fight people bring up first. Again, just look at the history of boxing - Hagler, Hopkins, Barrera, Lewis etc. I could name dozens of all-time greats remembered for their most high-profile wins not necessarily best.

    Ward-Kovalev was much smaller in terms of it's appeal to the general boxing/sports fan. Seriously, this dwarfs it in terms of business (gate/TV numbers/worldwide appeal). You can probably argue it was between "better," higher rated fighters though. But that's personal preference.
    I agree that this fight is big like the Mayweather va Mcgregor fight was big. General boxing fans are more interested. I just doubt that the outcome makes it historically significant because GGG should win fairly easily and at the end of the day Canelo won't turn out to be seen as a great fighter but just a good one.

    As boxing fans though I'm hoping that most understand that Canelo is overrated so it's more of a hype job of a fight.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    where I work there is only one other lad into his boxing as much as me but there is a bloke who is on the very fringes of being a proper fan, he has BoxNation and he knows all the fighters that you should know about but he isn't bothered about missing a fight.

    I asked him today if he is going to be watching the fight and who he wanted to win, he said that he'll catch it on YouTube in the morning but that he wants GGG to 'dismantle the fucking ginger twat'

    I'm just so happy that I managed to dodge my mates 40th birthday celebrations so that I could sit down at home...alone...with nothing but cold pizza...and Boxing...

    I wouldn't have it any other fucking way, when them lot are waking up with the horrors I'll be waking up content in the fact that for as tired as I may be I have spent the night in solitary confinement with just a few Saddos for company.

    And probably cold pizza for breakfast

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    oh yeah, whats the craic with the fight for BT subscribers, my old man wants to watch/record it but I don't know how it works

    he pays for BT Sports and gets the majority of BoxNation fights and the BoxNation channel isn't encrypted but will he have to pay for this fight outside of his normal package or can he just watch it on BoxNation?

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Buzzing for this not been this hyped since JC and Bhop got it on.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Duke View Post
    Buzzing for this not been this hyped since JC and Bhop got it on.
    you lie

    you pissed your pants when Floyd and Conor was announced

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