Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

[GaMo]

Ward-Kovalev was much smaller in terms of it's appeal to the general boxing/sports fan. Seriously, this dwarfs it in terms of business (gate/TV numbers/worldwide appeal). You can probably argue it was between "better," higher rated fighters though. But that's personal preference.

I agree that Ward and Kovalev were both more accomplished as fighters but it lacked the excitement because of Ward’s negative style of fighting. Canelo has a crowd-pleasing style and GGG likes to come forward (he’s not hard to find) so people are expecting a good fight. Most people would rather see a great fight than a significant or important one which is dull.

I'd watch Canelo like a hawk. He's not used to fighting guys on a fair and level weight playing field. This is unknown territory for him. Watch for diuretics (tips from JCC Jr.), and other weight-related shenanigans. Everyone knows that Canelo could rightfully fight at 168 or even 175 if he wanted to. I see GGG-Canelo going pretty much like Fonfara-Chavez Jr.

Canelo looks naturally smaller than GGG when I’ve seen them face to face (like after the Chavez fight) Alvarez has spent most of his career at 154 and even went below that for the Mayweather fight so I don’t think he needs to cheat to make weight. He’s no light heavyweight! He’s only 5’9 which is very short even for a middleweight (he’s not as big as you make out) and I can’t remember him ever failing to make weight in a fight?

I agree with almost everything Fenster said. I'm pretty sure he is stating what the trolls will say with "overrated Euro hype job" but my question to them is what does that make Canelo if GGG wins?
Maybe it's a question for Gamo. He is so sure Canelo wins and that it will be easy. Does GGG become his new hero or do we have to put him on suicide watch?
If Canelo wins easy I'm getting the lottery numbers for next week from Gamo.

Golovkin isn’t a terrible fighter, in fact he’s a very good fighter but he’s spent most of his career fighting terrible fighters. Take Jacobs from his record and you’re left with a list of C- fighters.

If GGG somehow pulls off the miracle then I’ll give him credit. He won’t become my hero because I don’t enjoy his style and I think he’s a bit of a twat but I’ll give him credit for beating a Alvarez. It won’t happen though so it doesn’t matter. This fight won’t be close and Alvarez will win so your questions are irrelevant but I’m looking forward to being proven right.

[Master]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

[GaMo]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

GGG plods forward and throws slow punches, it’s all very predictable and it lacks creativity.

[Master]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

GGG plods forward and throws slow punches, it’s all very predictable and it lacks creativity.

So was Mike Tyson.

[Beanz]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

GGG plods forward and throws slow punches, it’s all very predictable and it lacks creativity.

If he was that slow and predictable you would think one of the supposedly C-Level Fighters that litter his career would have been able to beat him ? If there is one thing he lacks it is certainly not creativity, that is just complete hokum. All the fighters he has faced are surprised at not only how quickly and efficiently he cuts down the ring but at the range of punches, often from weird angles they find themselves unable to defend against. When was the last time you saw somebody poleaxed by a left hook to the top of the head? (Rubio) and his jab and punch picking is often immaculate. The liver shot that bent Macklin in half the fact that he is always in position to throw fight ending shots from all kinds of angles would again suggest his footwork is exceptional and that he can put together combinations that unlock defenses. He is much better than you will ever give him credit for being.

[Alpha]

Perfectly said Beanz. To rational tho for some to comprehend. Logic does not seem a high priority for GaMo.

[erics44]

right im bored of talking about it now, im ready for the fight

[Master]

right im bored of talking about it now, im ready for the fight

If you talk too much about it you begin to doubt yourself and think maybe Canelo can win this.

[GaMo]

Alvarez generally tends to come in between 170 - 175 on fight night. I'm pretty sure he was 172 against Trout on the unofficial HBO scales.

Who cares? He made 154 for the weigh in and that’s all that matters.

GGG plods forward and throws slow punches, it’s all very predictable and it lacks creativity.

So was Mike Tyson.

Tyson had speed, he moved forward quickly and had good hand speed for a big man but he was also overrated (let’s be honest) Fighters who are aggressive and score a lot of stoppages usually get overrated because of their fan friendly styles and impressive highlight reels.

If he was that slow and predictable you would think one of the supposedly C-Level Fighters that litter his career would have been able to beat him ? If there is one thing he lacks it is certainly not creativity, that is just complete hokum. All the fighters he has faced are surprised at not only how quickly and efficiently he cuts down the ring but at the range of punches, often from weird angles they find themselves unable to defend against. When was the last time you saw somebody poleaxed by a left hook to the top of the head? (Rubio) and his jab and punch picking is often immaculate. The liver shot that bent Macklin in half the fact that he is always in position to throw fight ending shots from all kinds of angles would again suggest his footwork is exceptional and that he can put together combinations that unlock defenses. He is much better than you will ever give him credit for being.

Just look at the two guys you brought up there, Macklin is a guy who was knocked out at British level and had lost two of his last three fights coming in against Golovkin. Rubio was stopped by Pavlik and beaten easily on points by Chavez before GGG beat him. Kofi Jantuah (a light middleweight) blew him away ages ago so he’s hardly a top flight middleweight.

Golovkin is very good at what he does but we all know what he’s going to do and he is predictable with his approach. He’s been made to look good against really poor opponents and the one top fighter he did fight took him the distance and almost beat him.

[Master]

GaMo, you are very entertaining, please stay around after Canelo loses. there is no shame in sticking up for your fighter and him losing dramatically. We have all been bitten at least once.

Yours will be this Saturday.

[TitoFan]

Day before the fight... and I gotta give some props to GaMo. He's practically on an island.... the island that "knows" Canelo will win. But he's engaging and combative in a decent way. A welcome change from Canelo fans I've sparred with in the past. He's a Canelo fan, of which there's millions, and obviously wants his man to win.

I'm probably the biggest Canelo hater here. His fights are exciting, (well.... except for that Floyd shutout) and he does come to fight. But IMO he's had too many things given to him since Day One. His career has been meticulously carried along to the point that even fellow Mexican and former great Cesar Chavez criticized the shit out of him in their national media. With only a handful of exceptions, his opponents have been largely smaller fighters, over-the-hill fighters, or both. I don't like fighters who are anointed right off the bat and get everything handed to them in a silver platter. His fans largely could not give a shit, and will follow Canelo the matinee idol off the edge of a cliff, if necessary. It's almost like a damn cult.

So yeah, I'm hoping for a GGG win by highlight reel knockout. Either that or Ginger quits on his stool like Junior did against Fonfara, although I think Canelo won't choose that route at the risk of alienating some fans. Either way, GGG will put a dent in the Canelo Fan Tour, but it won't matter. Fans will forget soon enough and it's on to the next little guy.

[Alpha]

Ward-Kovalev was much smaller in terms of it's appeal to the general boxing/sports fan. Seriously, this dwarfs it in terms of business (gate/TV numbers/worldwide appeal). You can probably argue it was between "better," higher rated fighters though. But that's personal preference.

I agree that Ward and Kovalev were both more accomplished as fighters but it lacked the excitement because of Ward’s negative style of fighting. Canelo has a crowd-pleasing style and GGG likes to come forward (he’s not hard to find) so people are expecting a good fight. Most people would rather see a great fight than a significant or important one which is dull.

I'd watch Canelo like a hawk. He's not used to fighting guys on a fair and level weight playing field. This is unknown territory for him. Watch for diuretics (tips from JCC Jr.), and other weight-related shenanigans. Everyone knows that Canelo could rightfully fight at 168 or even 175 if he wanted to. I see GGG-Canelo going pretty much like Fonfara-Chavez Jr.

Canelo looks naturally smaller than GGG when I’ve seen them face to face (like after the Chavez fight) Alvarez has spent most of his career at 154 and even went below that for the Mayweather fight so I don’t think he needs to cheat to make weight. He’s no light heavyweight! He’s only 5’9 which is very short even for a middleweight (he’s not as big as you make out) and I can’t remember him ever failing to make weight in a fight?

Alvarez generally tends to come in between 170 - 175 on fight night. I'm pretty sure he was 172 against Trout on the unofficial HBO scales.