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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Canelo had to fight GGG that way and no one should be surprised he was on his bike picking his moments.

    GGG could get better in the rematch by perhaps going to the body early?

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.
    I can't bash GGG as he has dominated the division.

    He beat Jacobs in my eyes and lost
    7-5 last night against Canelo.

    In the rematch, I see GGG being even hungrier for the win but it must take place ASAP considering the age factor.

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    All Canelo needs to do is be more active. GGG will only get older and Alvarez will only get better. The rematch will be easily won by Canelo as we saw the best of GGG last night and it was not impressive.

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    All Canelo needs to do is be more active. GGG will only get older and Alvarez will only get better. The rematch will be easily won by Canelo as we saw the best of GGG last night and it was not impressive.
    Yes that is all he has to do because he was blowing out of his ass and could not take the consistent pressure from GGG. How is he going to be able to do it the second time.

    I bet Canelo will try and wait until GGG is older and wait another 18 months to get the rematch on.
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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    I will be the first to call Canelo a bitch if the rematch with GGG is not his next fight.

    I'm still quite shocked that the majority had GGG winning a very close fight.

    That Margarito type zombie plodding forward is nothing if you miss the majority of your power shots and get countered..Canelo was silky, smooth in some parts of the fight!

    Can GGG get any better?...let's talk about the trainer Abel Sanchez and see if he is even capable of improving on GGGs flaws..

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    I will be the first to call Canelo a bitch if the rematch with GGG is not his next fight.

    I'm still quite shocked that the majority had GGG winning a very close fight.

    That Margarito type zombie plodding forward is nothing if you miss the majority of your power shots and get countered..Canelo was silky, smooth in some parts of the fight!

    Can GGG get any better?...let's talk about the trainer Abel Sanchez and see if he is even capable of improving on GGGs flaws..
    Margarito type plodding? Are you serious? He is older so many things he once did great have been reduced a bit but GGG still did some things technically great. Margarito just came forward and looked for the KO and didn't worry about being hit. GGG purposely pushed him to the ropes and avoided exchanges to avoid the counters so that he could just win rounds.

    And it doesn't matter if you miss a ton of punches if you are still landing more than your opponent. I don't like compubox but for the sake of argument I'll use it. Essentially they landed the same amount of power punches. GGG landed quite a few more jabs. GGG threw way more power punches. That means that although Canelo had a better connect percentage, GGG was busier and dictated the pace of the fight. He forced Canelo to back up and rely solely on counter punching because GGG was too active.

    I understand that sometimes your scorecard is the outlier (it has happened to me on a few occasions), but trying to defend your position by calling GGG a margarito type fighter is insane.

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    I will be the first to call Canelo a bitch if the rematch with GGG is not his next fight.

    I'm still quite shocked that the majority had GGG winning a very close fight.

    That Margarito type zombie plodding forward is nothing if you miss the majority of your power shots and get countered..Canelo was silky, smooth in some parts of the fight!

    Can GGG get any better?...let's talk about the trainer Abel Sanchez and see if he is even capable of improving on GGGs flaws..
    You and me are the only ones who aren't queuing up to suck off GGG. @Master thinks that plodding and missing style is the most exciting thing he's ever seen inside of a boxing ring. Being an accurate puncher and a responsible defender doesn't mean much here it seems. Guys like Floyd get trashed while bums like Lemieux get praised

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.
    Ward is a light heavyweight. It's like saying Why doesn't Ward jump up two weights to fight Joshua?

    Both jacobs and Canelo failed in their attempts vs a washed up 35 year old. Both guys ran and were scared of the power. Back to caneloweight for Alvarez vs guys more on his level. He tried stepping up to win the titles but came up short and his own fans bood him for not fighting like a Mexican. Tragic night for his career vs an old man

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.
    Ward is a light heavyweight. It's like saying Why doesn't Ward jump up two weights to fight Joshua?

    Both jacobs and Canelo failed in their attempts vs a washed up 35 year old. Both guys ran and were scared of the power. Back to caneloweight for Alvarez vs guys more on his level. He tried stepping up to win the titles but came up short and his own fans bood him for not fighting like a Mexican. Tragic night for his career vs an old man
    Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin.

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
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    He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.
    Ward is a light heavyweight. It's like saying Why doesn't Ward jump up two weights to fight Joshua?

    Both jacobs and Canelo failed in their attempts vs a washed up 35 year old. Both guys ran and were scared of the power. Back to caneloweight for Alvarez vs guys more on his level. He tried stepping up to win the titles but came up short and his own fans bood him for not fighting like a Mexican. Tragic night for his career vs an old man
    Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin.
    Ward wasn't fighting anyone. He had contract issues. But even if he did call out a guy in the division below him they are still in different weight classes

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.
    Ward is a light heavyweight. It's like saying Why doesn't Ward jump up two weights to fight Joshua?

    Both jacobs and Canelo failed in their attempts vs a washed up 35 year old. Both guys ran and were scared of the power. Back to caneloweight for Alvarez vs guys more on his level. He tried stepping up to win the titles but came up short and his own fans bood him for not fighting like a Mexican. Tragic night for his career vs an old man
    Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin.
    Ward wasn't fighting anyone. He had contract issues. But even if he did call out a guy in the division below him they are still in different weight classes

    As we're Golovkin and Canelo but Alvarez stepped up and made it happen. He had the balls to do what Golovkin didn't and you can't dispute that.

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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    No, I don't think that GGG can get better. If anything, he will have slightly declined a bit further by the time they next fight.

    However, I don't think he NEEDS to get better.

    In my view, he gave away the first three rounds by starting a bit tentatively and getting outboxed. If he starts at the same relentless pace that he showed from the 4th to the 10th, his route to victory is to wear Canelo down.

    Whether he will be able to do that over 12 rounds at age 35 is going to be the big question for the rematch.
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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.
    Ward is a light heavyweight. It's like saying Why doesn't Ward jump up two weights to fight Joshua?

    Both jacobs and Canelo failed in their attempts vs a washed up 35 year old. Both guys ran and were scared of the power. Back to caneloweight for Alvarez vs guys more on his level. He tried stepping up to win the titles but came up short and his own fans bood him for not fighting like a Mexican. Tragic night for his career vs an old man
    Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin.
    Ward wasn't fighting anyone. He had contract issues. But even if he did call out a guy in the division below him they are still in different weight classes

    As we're Golovkin and Canelo but Alvarez stepped up and made it happen. He had the balls to do what Golovkin didn't and you can't dispute that.
    Canelo had to go up in weight because he can not make 154lb legally and fairly. The fat fucks last fight before GGG was at super middleweight.
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    Default Re: Can GGG get any better?

    Surely the real question is can Canelo get any better? What Golovkin did by consensus was good enough to win the fight and win it pretty handily. It's Canelo that needs to find a bit more, but from where? Unless Golovkin deteriorates rapidly, Canelo now knows what every sane person knew going into the fight. There aint a cat in hells chance of him chinning the fucker, so he needs to go the long way around. His constant back peddling was not of his own doing, he was in retreat for most of the fight because he had no choice. The 35 year old who they hoped would be a little more shop worn, had too much engine for him and he couldnt compete.

    It's Canelo that needs to make changes. Or.......do what they've been doing for the past couple of years and hope Golovkin fades enough to get the win at the second attempt.
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