Hypothetical Round scoring scenario! Punches landed vs Thrown.

[Master]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

[imp]

Canelo was countering on the ropes.

Canelo was never hurt and made the better eye catching shots..

How many times has Floyd been pushed to the ropes and countered of it?...all his career!!!

[imp]

Canelo had no fear in him whatsoever..he was calm and picked his shots.

[ykdadamaja]

Canelo had no fear in him whatsoever..he was calm and picked his shots.

I saw GGG stunned into a complete stop for the first time EVER. Somewhere in Round 10 or 11. Gonna have to rewatch. But, Canelo hit him with something fierce and instead of GGG beckoning him to come on, he stubbled for a second and put his guard up. lololol....


These are GGGs last fights. I am seeing the wear and tear on his hand and eye coordination. I think, for his health's sake, GGG either takes a good LONG BREAK ala Floyd OR he retires after another 2 or maybe three fights. Rematch Canelo and possibly try to set up a good fight with Ward-- just move up in weight for the sake of it.

He has proven himself, in my mind, as one of the top Middleweights of all time. I don't think anyone surpasses Roy Jr., but a conversation can be made against him being above Hagler to some respect and being a more skilled technician than B-Hop. A case can be made on then All Time PFP Middlweights of all time.

[imp]

Props should be given to Canelo for stepping up a weight class to fight the best guy in the division...

Ward has done the same.

[imp]

The fact Canelo is ginger and signed to Golden boy has made the hate strong against him!..lol

[Fenster]

You can't accurately gauge punches landed so your whole point is utterly mute (which punches land is purely at the discretion of the individual and proven to be incorrect/debatable on numerous occasions).

[Master]

Props should be given to Canelo for stepping up a weight class to fight the best guy in the division...

Ward has done the same.

Canelo has been a middleweight for years and coming in at light heavy during his fights. That is why he has dominated the light middleweight division for years. The only reason he has not moved up was because his fear of Golovkin.

[imp]

Props should be given to Canelo for stepping up a weight class to fight the best guy in the division...

Ward has done the same.

Canelo has been a middleweight for years and coming in at light heavy during his fights. That is why he has dominated the light middleweight division for years. The only reason he has not moved up was because his fear of Golovkin.

Canelo did not wait for GGG to leave the divison like GGG waited for Ward to move up.

You can't have it both ways.

There's many factors that play into your hate of Canelo and this so called invincibility of GGG.

We all know that Floyd outboxed Canelo for 12 rounds and made it look easy.

The fact that Canelo came up in weight and fought the best at 160 with no issues on a draw, will only make it look even better for old man Floyd..that pisses you off.

Leave Floyd out of this and focus on what Canelo done in the ring.

Everyone said he was getting knocked out, everyone was saying he won't go the distance..he did both and landed the bigger shots.

The judge should be banned for life but that does not change the result.

[brocktonblockbust]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

[ykdadamaja]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

lol

[Gandalf]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

Big difference was that Canelo was throwing very little in those exchanges. He was coming up short a lot on those counters and like Master said, GGG was doing all the work. Canelo fights in spurts and it is his undoing, he loses a lot of rounds because he cannot sustain the action. It's a bit like with Calzaghe/Hopkins, like it or not Calzaghe was outworking his opponent. Same here. 50 more punches landed for GGG, busier and doing his thing on the ropes while Canelo takes a breather.

[Spicoli]

Quality over quantity I believe. I never put much stock into counting punches to decide who is actually having more of an effect. They tried that it in the amateurs and it doesn't tend to work out well either.

[GaMo]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

Of course he did. In his eyes all you need to do is come forward to win a round, it doesn't matter about the punches he probably had that Japanese guy beating Cotto last time out.

[Primo Carnera]

GGG was landing the more effective and point scoring punches throughout the fight.

GGG was initiating the fight and had Canelo on the ropes so it looked like he was in control of the fight.

GGG did miss a lot and allowed Canelo time to rest.

Canelo was firing in bursts and many not landing.

Master George Foreman was initiating the entire fight and Ali was laying on the ropes for the whole eight rounds So based on that analysis you had George Foreman ahead right before the knockout?

I think you know , as I'm sure you've seen the Foreman /Ali fight many times, that this rope a dope thing is a bit misleading. I re-watched it recently and was surprised at just how much leather Ali threw and connected with. Yeah, he went on the ropes a bit and took a lot on his arms, but he connected with some good shots and I think this tired Foreman out just as much as the rope a dope myth.
Nobody wins rounds without throwing punches , BUT Ali and Floyd made it SEEM like they did. look carefully and it's a different story.