Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

[brocktonblockbust]

Can you imagine Sugar Ray Robinson or Marvin Hagler or Carlos Monzon for example lose the last three rounds of a decision like GGG lost last night on all three judges scorecards?

Triple G is not even close to being considered an all-time great. Not even close.

[Master]

Can you imagine Sugar Ray Robinson or Marvin Hagler or Carlos Monzon for example lose the last three rounds of a decision like GGG lost last night on all three judges scorecards?

Triple G is not even close to being considered an all-time great. Not even close.

You are looking at these great middleweight with rose tinted glasses. Hagler struggled with Duran for some strange reason, Robinson lost 5 times.

It is silly to compare what GGG did for the last 3 rounds of his fight against the greats.

[brocktonblockbust]

Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Robinson always found a way to pull the fight out. Triple G struggled over the last three rounds and Canelo completely out hustled him and rounds 10 11 and 12 those are the championship rounds and a 12-round fight. Golovkin at no point in the fight at absolutely no point in the fight did Golovkin dominate over Canelo

[brocktonblockbust]

@Master a fighter who finally got the night of his life to shine and to rise to the level of an elite and an all-time great has to do a lot better than Triple G did last night where he is reduced to merely complaining about the scorecards.

[brocktonblockbust]

Had Golovkin one even one of the final three rounds he would have won the fight. Imagine Marvin Hagler struggling to win one of the last three rounds of a fight where it is closed. Triple G made absolutely no adjustments in the fight and had a very low connect percentage of something like 30% where he had been averaging 46% over his last five fights in fact he never heard Canelo even once and he never had Canelo reeling a rocking at all in any way shape or form. Triple G could not make any adjustments and therefore it was a very flat performance

[brocktonblockbust]

If you're going to be compared with all-time greats Like Sugar Ray Robinson and Carlos monzon you cannot get out hustled during the last three rounds. It is actually unforgivable to be out hustled and lose the three final rounds in a championship fight and be considered an all-time great

[X]

Had Golovkin one even one of the final three rounds he would have won the fight. Imagine Marvin Hagler struggling to win one of the last three rounds of a fight where it is closed. Triple G made absolutely no adjustments in the fight and had a very low connect percentage of something like 30% where he had been averaging 46% over his last five fights in fact he never heard Canelo even once and he never had Canelo reeling a rocking at all in any way shape or form. Triple G could not make any adjustments and therefore it was a very flat performance

I love Marvin Hagler, and to my mind he is the best middleweight I've ever seen.

BUT, Brock, don't forget he also had moments of weakness.

He started off strangely tentatively against Duran (just like GGG did this weekend), he also inexplicably came out southpaw against Leonard and gave him the first few rounds too.

His 'canelo' moment, though, was in his first world title shot against Vito Antuofermo. He came out slow and did allow the inferior fighter to seem to outhustle him to a controversial draw.

[GaMo]

Hagler was (and is) overrated.

[X]

Right, I have calmed down a bit now so I can give my more rational thoughts on this fight

First, and most importantly ...... I really enjoyed the fight. Two elite level boxers going at it hammer and tongs, giving their best, respecting the opponent and leaving nothing behind in the ring.

I thought Canelo was superb. That was the best performance I've seen from him, and he proved to me that he is the real thing.

He definitely started better, he was calmer and more confident at the beginning and his boxing skills were excellent. He definitely did not look the smaller man in there at all.

I criticised his slow feet before the fight, but it was his smart footwork that made GGG follow him for the first 5 rounds rather than effectively cut off the ring.

He feinted and drew Golovkin superbly, and he had the technique to land easily the more eye catching shots. His hands were noticeably faster that GGG's too, and when he unloaded in combinations it was truly impressive. It did seem that (at times) he could hit Golovkin at will. He was never really hurt and showed a great chin.

I thought Golovkin looked very tense entering the ring, and he also started off strangely tentatively. All the talk of him implicitly trusting his chin and walking through people was clearly wrong as he did seem to have a bit too much respect for Canelos power early on.

By the 4th round, though, he had found his groove. He started to cut the ring off and he applied truly MASSIVE pressure on Canelo. He was in front of Alvarez for three minutes of every round, even running towards him on several occasions. This put Canelo into pure survival mode for large parts of the fight and I think he gassed out for most of the middle period.

GGG was absolutely relentless. The pressure was unbelievable. Alvarez landed his Sunday shots on him several times - and those are the same shots that have iced his previous opponents - and Golovkin didn't budge. Unbelieviable chin.

I thought Golovkin swept the 4th to the 10th pretty conclusively. He pressured, threw punches and landed more shots on an overwhelmed opponent. Canelo tried to survive and steal rounds, no shame in that but I really don't think he did enough.

Canelo saved some gas for a good finish, and I think his hand speed edged the last couple of rounds.

After an excellent fight, full value of money and conducted by two great pros .....neither guy had been seriously shaken or hurt .... and we were in that well-known territory whereby we had rounds that were quite divisive to score.

This was almost deja vu to Hagler versus Leonard.

We had a blue collar, fearsome destroyer who has dominated their division for years. Someone who never got the breaks on the way up and was constantly avoided...... versus the media darling moving up a weight, with flashy skills and the ability to generate many more ticket sales,

I thought GGG won the fight by two or three rounds, but that's maybe because I was already a big GGG fan and I was a bit biased. In that case, even if I conceded a couple of rounds to Canelo that I had awarded to GGG I accept it was a close fight. It definitely wasn't a 118-110 fight for either guy.

Strangely enough, this was the ideal result for GGG.

He is still the champion, still undefeated and with a much wider fan base now, probably included many New Mexican ones. If he had lost, he would never ever had a rematch as De la Hoya would have wanted no part of him.

If he had won, I still don't think he would have got Canelo back in the ring

Now, he most likely has fans clamouring for a rematch against the biggest PPV star out there. A guy he knows can't hurt him, who can't keep up with his relentless pace. Big money. Start faster and better and he can make the rematch a big drama show.

Before this fight, would GGG have sacrificed a draw, with many people giving him the moral victory, in return for a massive boost to his fan base and the opportunity to make another £15 million? I think so
sorry for the long post!

[walrus]

Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Robinson always found a way to pull the fight out. Triple G struggled over the last three rounds and Canelo completely out hustled him and rounds 10 11 and 12 those are the championship rounds and a 12-round fight. Golovkin at no point in the fight at absolutely no point in the fight did Golovkin dominate over Canelo

This dude knows fuck all about boxing

[Kirkland Laing]

Byrd could easily have scored the fight 118-110 for Golovkin. But then she would have been banned. Or at least not picked for major events anymore. Vegas need reliable people in jobs like hers. Do you think the guy in charge of drug testing for the Nevada SAC wants to catch people? Imagine if somebody like Alvarez tested positive after a fight. Hey boss, guess who I caught, he'll be banned for a year at least! How long do you think he'd stay in his job?

[X]

Well, I've just watched the whole fight again with the sound down.

I purposely decided that I would mainly watch Canelo this time, just make sure I didn't miss any smart work and that I saw when he blocked GGG etc.

Even leaning slightly towards him, giving him rounds, and some rounds even when I would ordinarily give them to GGG .... I still ended up with Golovkin winning by two clear rounds. 116-114.

I genuinely cannot for the life of me see any way that could have been scored as Byrd did.

[Master]

Well, I've just watched the whole fight again with the sound down.

I purposely decided that I would mainly watch Canelo this time, just make sure I didn't miss any smart work and that I saw when he blocked GGG etc.

Even leaning slightly towards him, giving him rounds, and some rounds even when I would ordinarily give them to GGG .... I still ended up with Golovkin winning by two clear rounds. 116-114.

I genuinely cannot for the life of me see any way that could have been scored as Byrd did.

That is official then. Byrd is corrupt as no one can be that incompetent.