Can GGG get any better?

**Master** · 09-20-2017 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

Because if the corrupt or incompetent judge had scored it correctly GGG would have won.

What is not to understand?

Ok. I believe what @GaMo is saying is if Byrd had judged it to Canelo by 1 round instead of Canelo by 8, what would the problem be?

In all probability the neutral judge would have given it to GGG and that is the problem. One judge has already had Canelo the winner even before the fight started.

**GaMo** · 09-21-2017 05:49 AM

Apart from stepping on Jacobs foot and bundling him over whilst he was off balance, GGG has failed to hurt or floor his last two opponents in 24 rounds. He's not the puncher everyone made him out to be and he's not the fighter some made him out to be. He couldn't separate himself at the top of the division.

**Master** · 09-21-2017 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by GaMo

Apart from stepping on Jacobs foot and bundling him over whilst he was off balance, GGG has failed to hurt or floor his last two opponents in 24 rounds. He's not the puncher everyone made him out to be and he's not the fighter some made him out to be. He couldn't separate himself at the top of the division.

His record is good and his stoppages show he is extremely heavy handed puncher. Stop re-writing his record based on his last 2 fights.

**GaMo** · 09-21-2017 06:24 AM

He's stopped bums, most fighters have a lot of stoppages early in their careers but usually fighters step up after 10-15 fights. GGG fought over 30 bums and built a high knockout percentage because of that.

X · 09-21-2017 06:35 AM

Just because you're a Canelo fan doesn't mean you have to troll Golovkin mate. If Canelo was so much better, then surely he would have won decisively?

I'm a big GGG fan, but I also think Alvarez is a fucking elite fighter, and the real deal.

**GaMo** · 09-21-2017 06:38 AM

@X I'm just saying the guy doesn't punch as hard as people make out. He has built a record knocking over bums, you can't dispute that because it's their on paper for all to see. The two top fighters he fought both took him the distance and arguably both beat him.

X · 09-21-2017 12:52 PM

Maybe, but don't forget people said the same thing about Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, George Foreman and Mike Tyson.

All you can ask is that a fighter puts away those people in front of them, I suspect it hasn't helped Golovkin that he was so avoided for many years. I definitely agree that it's harder to knock out elite fighters, and most people's records will show that.

I think GGG is very heavy handed, and is a beast but I don't think he is a one punch kayo monster like Tommy Hearns or Julian Jackson etc.

I think it's his relentless pressure that wears people down rather than superhuman punch power.

A really good mover, who can snipe away and who has a good chin is the best blueprint to beat him. I think Jacobs showed the way, and Canelo followed the same game plan well.

Ward could have the tools to do it (but he is the dirtiest fighter I have seen in years). Micheal Nunn would also have given him problems I think.