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    Default Re: Wilder vs Ortiz..is done.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    Will this be ppv in the USA?
    No. Wilder is not popular in the US. Maybe in Alabama specifically where he is from but not the US as a whole
    He just hasn't set himself up to get that exposure....not sure who his manager is but fucking get Floyd Mayweather Jr on the phone STAT get Wilder some press! Get some eyes on him....he's an undefeated power punching heavyweight and an American one at that...unreal. But part of the blame has to be his opponents, he has Stiverne, Arreola, and on his record.....Americans can be cynical when it comes to this, we've seen Jeff Lacy, we've seen Gerry Cooney, we've seen Michael Grant, we've seen guys get built up and built up and built up only to wither once the spotlight hits them.
    I'm glad we aren't so accepting of mediocrity here. We get great fights because of it. Wilder wants to be popular, make the right fights. This is a start. AJ can sail along for free but Wilder will have to work and that's how it should be. Speaking of, is AJ planning to fight someone good after he gets done with Pulev? I remember talk from AJs side that the Wilder fight needs to marinate đź’©

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    I think AJ had to fight his mandatories which Pulev was one and I think Ortiz was the other so they both will be out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I think AJ had to fight his mandatories which Pulev was one and I think Ortiz was the other so they both will be out of the way.
    Again, fight Pulev, fight Wilder, he would have the same number of belts. So he could really do whatever he wanted. They said quite clearly they wanted the Wilder fight to marinate.

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    Let's hope we get the winners clash next. Parker might be an easier fight to make for AJs side before tackling the Wilder/ Ortiz winner tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Let's hope we get the winners clash next. Parker might be an easier fight to make for AJs side before tackling the Wilder/ Ortiz winner tho.
    I think Haye v Bellew will get the winner Parker v Hughie.
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    Let's hope we get the winners clash next. Parker might be an easier fight to make for AJs side before tackling the Wilder/ Ortiz winner tho.
    I think Haye v Bellew will get the winner Parker v Hughie.
    Parker is alright-ish the rest of that lot are crap though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Let's hope we get the winners clash next. Parker might be an easier fight to make for AJs side before tackling the Wilder/ Ortiz winner tho.
    I think Haye v Bellew will get the winner Parker v Hughie.
    You could be right. I think the winner would probably gain a rating.

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    Parker seems like a decent guy but I don't really rate him as a fighter. I hope he can make a big statement against Fury but I have a feeling he'll end up scrapping a close decision win. Couldn't give a fuck about Haye or Bellew so I won't comment. I like Wilder and AJ though so the top three are all likeable guys and undefeated belt holders, the question is who will Parker sell himself (and his title) to? My guess is it'll be AJ early next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I think AJ had to fight his mandatories which Pulev was one and I think Ortiz was the other so they both will be out of the way.
    The bad news is Stiverne is fighting Breazeale on the undercard and his mandatory spot remains should he prevail so he again is forced on winner.

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    Another big fight this year to look forward to. I hope it isn’t soured by controversy like other big fights have been because I see this fight going 12. I expect Deontay to get a decision but if it’s a not a deserved decision his rep will suffer and he won’t get any credit for beating a dangerous fighter like Ortiz.

    A few years ago I would have picked Ortiz in this fight but his time has passed now. He is inactive at this stage in his career and his performances have dipped. I think the opportunities come too late although he will still be a real threat and toughest challenge of Deontays career so far. The Alabama fighter needs to use his height and reach, play it safe and keep it long. A distance fight will surely go his way. A good jab will keep the older, shorter and slower opponent at bay. 118-110

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    Default Re: Wilder vs Ortiz..is done.

    Ortiz looks like he can take a punch but he's never actually been in with a real puncher so we don't know if he can absorb what Wilder can dish out.

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    Zimmer frame or not Ortiz is a million times better than anyone Wilder has faced, he hasn't looked great in his last couple but that was against survivors, and like virtually all Cubans they're never in a hurry to entertain.

    Has Wilder even seen a lefty? They'll probably have to stop the fight after 60 seconds to explain it to him as he'll be complaining about distorted vision (Audley doesn't count, he was on the floor through fear before ever forming a stance).

    The Atomic Windmill dodged a bullet with Povetkin not this time. He's been an accident waiting to happen against any highly experienced well-educated puncher.

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    I would have expected Boxnation to get this fight but then it makes sense for Sky to throw their money at it to further build the clash with AJ.

    I'm not Wilders biggest fan but I think he wins this, I can't help but think the time has passed for Ortiz.

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    I'd heard loads of positive stuff about Ortiz but only really took notice when Matchroom signed him. I have to say I've been pretty underwhelmed. He looks old, cumbersome and unfit.
    And I'm not a big fan of Wilder. I just think that for a guy with his record and standing in the division, he's pretty poor. However, credit to Wilder if he beats Ortiz as regardless of what I think, Ortiz is classed as a top end fighter.
    People who know me know I am not a tub thumping Brit that gets carried away with the slightest bit of success.
    But I do believe Joshua would knock Wilder out. Too big, strong and busy.

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    Default Re: Wilder vs Ortiz..is done.

    Porter vs Granados on the undercard. That's a fun fight.

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