Why are Americans not allowed to own mortars, tanks, grenades or Rockets?

[El Kabong]

I don't know how to defend myself?

No, no, no, no......poor rocco, I didn't say that....I said you don't have the common sense to defend yourself which is completely different. It requires you to be more incompetent than somebody who just doesn't know HOW to defend himself. Lacking the common sense to defend yourself means you have no survival instinct. I mean it's YOU who does not comprehend natural law after all....a concept that's about 350 years old if not older.

[Dia bando]

Lets just say the USA brings in tough gun laws and they ban assault rifles what brave boys are going to knock doors to remove theses weapons
shit you would need a tank imagine the fire fights.
Really its not going to happen is it why because weather you like it or not its ingrained into there culture guns the right to bear arms outdated yes laws made in the day of black powder and flintlocks, today's weapons are a far cry from bygone day.
The carnage theses weapons can bring is for all to see Fuck America has to take it head out of its ass and realise some of its citizens are not fit to own a butter knife but fuck all will be done and more nut jobs will be able to own guns.

[GaMo]

Stupid question, explosives are only used to cause damage and destruction. There would be no reason to have them unless you worked in demolition. Why would you want a load of explosives in your house anyway? Unless you had a use for them they’d be completely pointless.

Why would you want a tank? They’re slow, heavy and probably cost a lot to run. I also imagine they’d be hard to drive on the road so once again it’s a stupid question.

[Spicoli]

You don't need to purchase a hand grenade if you really want to blow shit up 'real good' Brock. I hope you never get into judging fights relying on numbers to make a case like that . Oooor you can just rent a truck and go all retro Tim McVeigh style. How many fragmentation grenades can you fit inside of a single long gun case anyway.

[ruthless rocco]

I don't have the common sense to defend myself?

[walrus]

I don't have the common sense to defend myself?

Who let beanz son back on the forum

[El Kabong]

I don't have the common sense to defend myself?

Correct, that is my assertion.



Why would you defend yourself? You've asked me that question and apparently you do not feel it is moral/correct/lawful for me to do such, sooooo yeah I'm throwing your horseshit back at you.

[El Kabong]

Lets just say the USA brings in tough gun laws and they ban assault rifles what brave boys are going to knock doors to remove theses weapons
shit you would need a tank imagine the fire fights.
Really its not going to happen is it why because weather you like it or not its ingrained into there culture guns the right to bear arms outdated yes laws made in the day of black powder and flintlocks, today's weapons are a far cry from bygone day.
The carnage theses weapons can bring is for all to see Fuck America has to take it head out of its ass and realise some of its citizens are not fit to own a butter knife but fuck all will be done and more nut jobs will be able to own guns.

"what brave boys are going to knock doors to remove theses weapons" Exactly


"the right to bear arms outdated yes laws made in the day of black powder and flintlocks, today's weapons are a far cry from bygone day." he said via the internet (if holding the First Amendment to the same standard as you're holding the Second Amendment).



"more nut jobs will be able to own guns" ....criminals aren't bothered by breaking the rules, law abiding citizens are. Why should I, a law abiding citizen surrender MY right when a criminal is just going to do whatever the fuck they feel like. There are no simple answers. And dude it's not like I'm going into the woods all fucking Rambo'ed out....I hunt mainly with a double barrel shotgun and a single shot rifle, I protect my home with a bit more though.

[ruthless rocco]

I don't have the common sense to defend myself?

Correct, that is my assertion.



Why would you defend yourself? You've asked me that question and apparently you do not feel it is moral/correct/lawful for me to do such, sooooo yeah I'm throwing your horseshit back at you.

I told you I do not feel that it is moral/correct/lawful for you to defend yourself?
Are you sure I said that?
Think you're paranoid and live your life in fear of other people.
I can only imagine it's a sad and desperate way to live. Always looking over your shoulder, wondering who's around the corner waiting to attack you and your woman (if you even have one--doubtful). always thinking about being ready to protect yourself from these predators that could strike at any moment.

[walrus]

I don't have the common sense to defend myself?

Correct, that is my assertion.



Why would you defend yourself? You've asked me that question and apparently you do not feel it is moral/correct/lawful for me to do such, sooooo yeah I'm throwing your horseshit back at you.

I told you I do not feel that it is moral/correct/lawful for you to defend yourself?
Are you sure I said that?
Think you're paranoid and live your life in fear of other people.
I can only imagine it's a sad and desperate way to live. Always looking over your shoulder, wondering who's around the corner waiting to attack you and your woman (if you even have one--doubtful). always thinking about being ready to protect yourself from these predators that could strike at any moment.

Get out of your parents basement

[Gandalf]

Makes you wonder where the alt right ends and Muslim fundamentalism begins. Both have this strange belief that they should be armed and want to force the world to accept their ideology through violence if necessary.

I'm forcing NOTHING on anyone, I merely wish to protect myself and my property which I do quietly and yet here you are screaming like an autistic banshee "TAKE THE GUNS! TAKE THE GUNS! YOU SHOULDN'T OWN THAT!"...you protect YOUR family and I'll look after mine, seems rather simple.


I don't demand a tax on those who don't own guns in the same manner that Militant Islamists demand infidels pay the Jizya

I don't demand anyone dress a certain way the way Militant Islamists do

I don't (regardless of what you might think of me) kill innocent people.....and miles you can take your "B-b-b-but Noam Chomsky said...." rebuttal to this statement of FACT and cram it.

And I'm not Alt-Right....I'm a registered Libertarian and I just would like to be left alone by the government unless there's a foreign force invading or there's a natural disaster and even then I'm 100% responsible for ME and my family and my property. But you go ahead, rely on government, put all of your faith in it for all I care.

I am actually not against someone owning a gun. It could be useful in the event that someone attacks a disabled or weaker person.

My point was more a general observation that the die hard need for weapons, adherance to a God and the destruction of lives and occupation of lands in regions not their own seems to be a tenet of extreme Islam and extreme Conservatism and especially so over the past 20 years. Both seem to have become more wild and wacky and there is evidence to suggest that the extremists on both sides have assisted one another.

Basically, extremism breeds extremism and that is why Switzerland has lots of guns but a relatively peaceful populace and government while you guys seem to have deep rooted issues.

Just look at the kind of TV shows you chaps are into. It's Hunger Games style violence and madness all the way. Peaceful societies have a much more normal culture and attitude towars life. You feel threatened by anything that squeaks and I guess you would when fear is a cornerstone of societal control. It's relatively free, but highly paranoid. Guess all the drugs both legal and illegal don't help much either. Too many wired people.

[brocktonblockbust]

I definitely have to agree with Rich on this one. Dia Bando has said it correctly there are plenty of imbecilic, mentally ill, phenylalinine-poisoned, Red 40 Lake-drenched, polysorbate 80-choked Americans around here.... take it from me I've been here now for two and a half years almost since being abroad for almost 9 years, I can tell you that the stereotype that Americans are stupid is more true than anyone can ever imagine. Rich has said it correctly .....

there are many Americans who are not even fit to own a butter knife let alone a firearm

[greynotsoold]

What is justifiable self defense though?

I'm guessing that if someone walked up and punched you in the face that you wouldn't be allowed to shoot them dead, I would imagine/hope that you would have to answer some serious questions if that happened.

But when is it acceptable to pull a gun? hows about if someone is waving a baseball bat around? would you be expected to run or would the courts look at that as a justifiable reason to use your gun?

Also would you be expected to try and incapacitate them (ie shoot them in the leg) or is 'self defense' classed as just self defense regardless of the outcome or severity.

Hows about you @El Kabong what would be your limit? would you be willing to take a good hard kicking before pulling your gun (obviously I'm talking about out on the street and not someone breaking into your home)

There was an incident in Missoula some time back where a guy shot another guy for punching him. If I remember correctly, the incident started in a strip club and there was a size disparity. The larger one was the aggressor, trying to start a fight. The other guy left the bar to avoid trouble. He was in his car trying to leave when the big one started punching him through the open window. He shot and killed him and no charges were filed.

[walrus]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...es-higher-u-s/

We should model Mexico with the strict gun control
They have it seems to be working well

[walrus]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.ef0a725e5ba0