Slugger vs. Swarmer.

[Master]

Hatton? He was always about not giving you time to reset. Not so much speed or technique as relentlessness. That is why he could out Tzyu Kostya but not handle the speed of Manny and the timing of Floyd. Below that level he was a nightmare maelstrom of malevolent rage that most could not handle.

Tszyu was flat footed and needed a lot of time and space to do his thing. I also believe that Tszyu was very overrated, the money was there for him to move up and fight the big names at 147 but he knew better.

That was a peak Hatton and that version was a force against anyone. If Floyd was in the opposite corner that night the fight would have been 50/50.

[GaMo]

Hatton? He was always about not giving you time to reset. Not so much speed or technique as relentlessness. That is why he could out Tzyu Kostya but not handle the speed of Manny and the timing of Floyd. Below that level he was a nightmare maelstrom of malevolent rage that most could not handle.

Tszyu was flat footed and needed a lot of time and space to do his thing. I also believe that Tszyu was very overrated, the money was there for him to move up and fight the big names at 147 but he knew better.

That was a peak Hatton and that version was a force against anyone. If Floyd was in the opposite corner that night the fight would have been 50/50.

No Mayweather would have embarrassed Tszyu. Honestly it would have been humiliating for Tszyu if he’d have made it to Floyd. Hatton at his best was good but Floyd was great and he’d beat any version of Hatton on his worst night.

[Master]

Hatton? He was always about not giving you time to reset. Not so much speed or technique as relentlessness. That is why he could out Tzyu Kostya but not handle the speed of Manny and the timing of Floyd. Below that level he was a nightmare maelstrom of malevolent rage that most could not handle.

Tszyu was flat footed and needed a lot of time and space to do his thing. I also believe that Tszyu was very overrated, the money was there for him to move up and fight the big names at 147 but he knew better.

That was a peak Hatton and that version was a force against anyone. If Floyd was in the opposite corner that night the fight would have been 50/50.

No Mayweather would have embarrassed Tszyu. Honestly it would have been humiliating for Tszyu if he’d have made it to Floyd. Hatton at his best was good but Floyd was great and he’d beat any version of Hatton on his worst night.

Under those conditions in his home town with Dave Paris allowing the low blows and at his best weight Floyd would have struggled.

[GaMo]

As soon as Floyd gets space his class will shine and he’ll take over. Floyd isn’t bad on the inside either and I’ve never seen him tired so Hatton’s pace (his best weapon) won’t be a factor. Floyd can get rough inside if that the way Hatton wanted to play it. Mayweather is one of the best and he’s a few levels above Ricky.

[GaMo]

I’ll give Hatton credit, he went to America and fought the best. He didn’t need to do that because he had a large casual fan base who would’ve filled out the Manchester Arena to watch him fight anyone. He probably should’ve just milked his popularity and had money fights with guys like Gatti or even Judah. He might have even beat Cotto at 140 if he caught him at the right time because Cotto looked fragile against Corley and Torres.

[Master]

As soon as Floyd gets space his class will shine and he’ll take over. Floyd isn’t bad on the inside either and I’ve never seen him tired so Hatton’s pace (his best weapon) won’t be a factor. Floyd can get rough inside if that the way Hatton wanted to play it. Mayweather is one of the best and he’s a few levels above Ricky.

Floyd struggled for 6 rounds against Hatton which is why I think under those conditions Hatton could have done well for another 6 rounds. Once he gave Kostya room he got hurt so had to close the distance. Floyd never had that much power but he does have the accuracy.

[GaMo]

As soon as Floyd gets space his class will shine and he’ll take over. Floyd isn’t bad on the inside either and I’ve never seen him tired so Hatton’s pace (his best weapon) won’t be a factor. Floyd can get rough inside if that the way Hatton wanted to play it. Mayweather is one of the best and he’s a few levels above Ricky.

Floyd struggled for 6 rounds against Hatton which is why I think under those conditions Hatton could have done well for another 6 rounds. Once he gave Kostya room he got hurt so had to close the distance. Floyd never had that much power but he does have the accuracy.

Yeah but Tszyu always set himself before punching so it was much easier to close the distance against him. Floyd had much quicker hands and feet, he’d have landed and then got out of there which Tszyu was unable to do.

[Master]

As soon as Floyd gets space his class will shine and he’ll take over. Floyd isn’t bad on the inside either and I’ve never seen him tired so Hatton’s pace (his best weapon) won’t be a factor. Floyd can get rough inside if that the way Hatton wanted to play it. Mayweather is one of the best and he’s a few levels above Ricky.

Floyd struggled for 6 rounds against Hatton which is why I think under those conditions Hatton could have done well for another 6 rounds. Once he gave Kostya room he got hurt so had to close the distance. Floyd never had that much power but he does have the accuracy.

Yeah but Tszyu always set himself before punching so it was much easier to close the distance against him. Floyd had much quicker hands and feet, he’d have landed and then got out of there which Tszyu was unable to do.

Well for the first 6 rounds he was not able to against Hatton.

So there would be a chance.

[El Kabong]

The absolute KEY in a slugger vs swarmer matchup is who controls the distance...that is THE key.

A swarmer wants to get inside and smother his opponent's attack with his own attack. A slugger wants to have distance to get leverage on punches and keep the swarmer off of him. A swarmer wants to tie up to get inside, a slugger should tie up to get a break in the action and reset on the break should his footing or position in the ring be wrong.


I'm thinking Foreman-Frazier was Slugger vs Swarmer, Douglas-Tyson ended up being Slugger vs Swarmer, Liston vs Patterson was Slugger vs Swarmer, Argeullo-Rooney was slugger vs swarmer, all of those fights saw the Slugger get the W. Tyson-Holmes was Swarmer vs Slugger, Patterson-Johanssen was Swarmer vs Slugger, Marciano-Louis was Swarmer vs Slugger.


So again, all of those fights were decided by DISTANCE...Swarmer on the inside is bad for the slugger, Slugger on the outside bad for the Swarmer happens every time, every time!







As for Kostya Tszyu, he didn't fight all that much, but hey more power to the guy if you can survive off of a fight a year then there ya go, boxing takes a lot out of you. Now I would have CERTAINLY loved to see him fight more talented fighters and more famous fighters I don't know why that didn't happen. The Judah fight was his big win, a 38 year old JC Chavez meeeh, he couldn't KO Roger Mayweather so I doubt Floyd would have been hit by him.