Groves vs Eubank Jr

[Primo Carnera]

@Primo Carnera Groves isn’t that slick, Froch had no problem finding him and Carl isn’t that quick (he never found Ward or Dirrell) he only found Taylor when Jermain’s gas tank ran out.

Did you see the Froch v Groves fights? I'm not talking about the KO punch, I'm talking about all 16 or 17 rounds. Don't forget, at the time, Froch was the champ and widely seen as top dog in the division (not counting Ward because he was hibernating) and Groves made him look like a novice for long parts of those fights.
And if Eubank is so quick , why couldn't he lay a glove on Saunders for 6 rounds?

[GaMo]

Taylor and Dirrell made Froch look like a novice for large parts of their fights against him. Eubank wasn’t really throwing for the first six rounds, it’s not like he was being made to miss a lot. He just wasn’t being active.

[Primo Carnera]

Taylor and Dirrell made Froch look like a novice for large parts of their fights against him. Eubank wasn’t really throwing for the first six rounds, it’s not like he was being made to miss a lot. He just wasn’t being active.

But WHY Wasn't he being active? Do you think he thought "I'll skip the first 6 rounds". He wasn't active because he couldn't pin Saunders down. He couldn't work him out. It made him look like an amateur.
As for Froch, his biggest strength is that he stays in there, and is difficult to put away. Nobody is saying Froch was a great Boxer. Fuck me, I was one of his biggest critics on here..........but the only person who beat him easy became the best fighter in the World.

[GaMo]

Taylor and Dirrell made Froch look like a novice for large parts of their fights against him. Eubank wasn’t really throwing for the first six rounds, it’s not like he was being made to miss a lot. He just wasn’t being active.

But WHY Wasn't he being active? Do you think he thought "I'll skip the first 6 rounds". He wasn't active because he couldn't pin Saunders down. He couldn't work him out. It made him look like an amateur.
As for Froch, his biggest strength is that he stays in there, and is difficult to put away. Nobody is saying Froch was a great Boxer. Fuck me, I was one of his biggest critics on here..........but the only person who beat him easy became the best fighter in the World.

He was an 18 fight novice at the time and he’s improved a lot since then. Saunders appears to have gotten worse to be honest. Maybe making 160 affected him or maybe he just gave Saunders too much respect early (I don’t know) but BJS is avoiding a rematch and any serious fight for that matter.

[Primo Carnera]

Taylor and Dirrell made Froch look like a novice for large parts of their fights against him. Eubank wasn’t really throwing for the first six rounds, it’s not like he was being made to miss a lot. He just wasn’t being active.

But WHY Wasn't he being active? Do you think he thought "I'll skip the first 6 rounds". He wasn't active because he couldn't pin Saunders down. He couldn't work him out. It made him look like an amateur.
As for Froch, his biggest strength is that he stays in there, and is difficult to put away. Nobody is saying Froch was a great Boxer. Fuck me, I was one of his biggest critics on here..........but the only person who beat him easy became the best fighter in the World.

He was an 18 fight novice at the time and he’s improved a lot since then. Saunders appears to have gotten worse to be honest. Maybe making 160 affected him or maybe he just gave Saunders too much respect early (I don’t know) but BJS is avoiding a rematch and any serious fight for that matter.

Maybe, maybe, maybe. Exactly my point. No doubt he's improved, but we won't know by how much until he beats somebody better than Saunders. They're different weights now , so they ain't fighting, although I completely agree with what you said about Saunders.

[imp]

https://youtu.be/dS5Vm-GhhQ0

[imp]

Why did Eubank jr move up to 168?

Was it a mixture of avoidance from BJS? A fresh start? Or was he struggling to make weight?