White Nationalists and the alt right. Racist as fuck is no better than woke as fuck

[Beanz]

I am hardly lecturing you Al, come off it. If you don't want to discuss it then why constantly bring it up? You can't blame all societies ills on immigration, particularly things like an underfunded and ill managed health and education service that is struggling due to the Tories privatising both through the back door.

We agree to disagree , that's fine.

....yyyyyyeah you can't blame ALL problems on immigration, but you can certainly blame SOME problems on immigration.

For example one could PROBABLY find a strong positive correlation (which of course doesn't show cause and effect) between immigration from Muslim majority countries and saaaaay Acid attacks which have curiously been on the rise in England.






.....but you're right, it doesn't account for underfunded and ill managed health and education which is obviously a priority over you know stopping acid attacks. Hmmm, I do wonder about those neighborhoods, can a Brit tell me anything about the people who call those neighborhoods home? @Dark Lord Al can you educate me on who lives in those boroughs?

So you are reading my posts then and you don't have me on ignore?


So it is interesting that in a thread about White Nationalists you would find a way to make it about Muslim Immigration in England. And that you would plead with Al to furnish you with some confirmation bias to avoid talking about the thread, and avoid answering any questions raised by the opening post.


So does this white nationalist look like a Muslim Immigrant to you




or how about this one?




or how about the infamous Newham attack of 2014 in which the perpetrator disguised herself behind a Muslim Veil before jealousy led to her disfiguring her friend Despite not being one Does she Look more like a Muslim Immigrant to you ?




These are the people carrying acid attacks in those areas. Gang violence and youth crime not Muslim Immigrants as the main perpetrators but often the victim


"Worldwide, about 80 per cent of acid attacks are by men in women, often in revenge for spurned sexual advances or marriage proposals.
But in the UK, acid attack charities believe that a high percentage of attacks are male-on-male, with gang members increasingly using acid as an easily-obtained weapon."




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7821701.html


But you know best... Narrative huh?

[Beanz]

See if there is room on your shelf for these


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...al-uk-10795265


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-a3582836.html

https://stepfeed.com/white-supremaci...errorists-9813

[Dark Lord Al]

See if there is room on your shelf for these


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...al-uk-10795265


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-a3582836.html

https://stepfeed.com/white-supremaci...errorists-9813

Life is bad if we are now quoting from the daily mirror comic lol.

[Master]

Better than the Daily Mail.

[walrus]

https://youtu.be/7iHXt6DzC9g

I need to put this up again it's catchy

[brocktonblockbust]

It doesn't matter the white nationalists are born citizens in that country they have much more of a right then foreigners who are invited in without having asked the population of they wanted farmers in to begin with who and then coming over and instead of being grateful carrying out a disproportionate amount of crimes. You are comparing apples and oranges. The white people who are born in Germany or Germans and the right people who are born in the UK who are British citizens have every right to protest and be white nationalists.

[Spicoli]

It doesn't matter the white nationalists are born citizens in that country they have much more of a right then foreigners who are invited in without having asked the population of they wanted farmers in to begin with who and then coming over and instead of being grateful carrying out a disproportionate amount of crimes. You are comparing apples and oranges. The white people who are born in Germany or Germans and the right people who are born in the UK who are British citizens have every right to protest and be white nationalists.

Yes if only "white nationalist" and the mentality knew fook all about crossing boarders and invading other Countries as a bad thing

[Beanz]

It doesn't matter the white nationalists are born citizens in that country they have much more of a right then foreigners who are invited in without having asked the population of they wanted farmers in to begin with who and then coming over and instead of being grateful carrying out a disproportionate amount of crimes. You are comparing apples and oranges. The white people who are born in Germany or Germans and the right people who are born in the UK who are British citizens have every right to protest and be white nationalists.

Rubbish you are just trotting out the same phrase without any thought again and again. White nationalists are by their very nature idiots. You are simply aligning yourself with them by denying the fact that they define themselves by their skin colour. So both in the UK and the USA they will oppose, intimidate and carry out violence against people who are not white, whether they are born in the country or not. It is revealing that this distinction is not made in the same way that these people will label everyone " Muslim, Immigrant, Paki..Scum"


Germany and the UK are not America and White nationalists do not have the right their to incite hatred here. You can not export your own fucked up version of freedom to Europe whilst defending an administration who pisses all over the first amendment. You are bigging up a president intent on gagging the press ffs

[Dark Lord Al]

Better than the Daily Mail.

that is a childish silly answer , who has quoted from any other paper ? and who stated that any tabloid was better than another ? or are you saying the mirror is a good paper ?

[Gandalf]

All British newspapers are poor. So let's not get into this 'my paper is better than yours' stuff. Haha.

Interesting points Fenster. Not something I was aware of. They like to demonise Tommy Robinson, but if you actually listen to him it is hard to disagree with many of the points he makes. He is divisive, but if divisive means hearing unpleasant truths that upset some then it still has to be heard.

[Gandalf]

But let's ban Brock a week for telling lies anyway.

[Beanz]

All British newspapers are poor. So let's not get into this 'my paper is better than yours' stuff. Haha.

Interesting points Fenster. Not something I was aware of. They like to demonise Tommy Robinson, but if you actually listen to him it is hard to disagree with many of the points he makes. He is divisive, but if divisive means hearing unpleasant truths that upset some then it still has to be heard.

Who are they? The British Public? Victims of the EDL? This is a guy (Tommy Robinson) who goes around threatening journalists, whilst supported by yobs in balaclavas. There is no need to demonise somebody who threatens "Every single Muslim in Britain" with a network of thugs ready on his word to take action. He is an extremist who capitalizes on atrocities to spread ignorance, hate and divisiveness. Ring any bells?
@Fenster while there is no doubt some truth in what you say the picture is not quite as one dimensional as that. Have a gander at this - https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/4...-prison-system

[walrus]

See if there is room on your shelf for these


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...al-uk-10795265


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-a3582836.html

https://stepfeed.com/white-supremaci...errorists-9813

Life is bad if we are now quoting from the daily mirror comic lol.

You need to seek the news that fits what ur saying

[Gandalf]

The UK has a 5% Muslim population and they make up 15% of prisoners too. Definitely some issues there. Terrorists are seldom called 'David Middlegate'.

[brocktonblockbust]

The UK has a 5% Muslim population and they make up 15% of prisoners too. Definitely some issues there. Terrorists are seldom called 'David Middlegate'.

Yeah and I saw no terrorists in South Korea or Japan either the two countries that don't let those people in. Gee I wonder why