Slugger vs. Swarmer.

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Some of the examples provided (Byrd, Floyd Patterson...etc.), don't really fit the swarmer style in my mind. I views swarmers as high volume guys who overwhelm their opponents. With that in mind, I would classify Joe C, Prime Manny, Margarito, Paul Williams, Aaron Pryor, Wayne McCollough, and Henry Armstrong as examples of high volume fighters who overwhelmed their opponents.

If the high volume guy has a good chin, I feel that they have the advantage and usually prevail vs the puncher, as the puncher usually becomes exhausted and discouraged. That being said, the swarmer tends to suffer spectacular knockouts once their chin finally does fail them (Margo vs Mosely, Williams vs Sergio Martinez, Hatton vs Manny) because they often walk into big shots.

As for Kostya Tszyu, I classify him as a multidimensional fighter who preferred fighting from the middle distance and had great punching power. He got cocky vs Vince Phillips and old vs Hatton, but on his best nights he would've been a threat to anyone. I would've loved to see him fight Floyd at 140, and while I think Floyd would've pulled it out, I think it would've been very close, and very tough.

Pocket Rocket is a great call and good all around description, tremendous volume with limited pop and more than willing up front. I liked Byrd with swarmer in spots it felt he always tried to over compensate as career went and play that out, get inside and play macho which came crashing back on him more than it saw him win huge. It worked early always smaller vs decent punchers and he more often than not went for the finish. Definitely far sharper than just a swarmer though and good boxing mind with very sound defense. Toney vs Tiberi just pops into mind, lethargic Toney outhustled non stop start to finish mainly. A guy like ultimate swarmer Zack Padilla was cut short.

Padilla is a great call (Tiberi also, but more on him in a minute). If I'm not mistaken, Zack and Ray Olivera still hold the punch stat record for most punches thrown. Don't know how he slipped my mind!

I agree that Tiberi hustled to a win, as did Montell and Drake Thadzi. James was slick and a great counter puncher, but he was very vulnerable to lose to busy guys. It's why I would favor a prime BHop over a prime Toney.

Would you consider prime Duran and JCC volume punchers?

Guys change up very much depending on opponent and Duran was that. When I think Swarmer it's almost a knock and infers near one dimensional. Duran was a diverse boxer puncher, at times much more buzzsaw than swarmer and others a superb counter puncher, but always volume and adapted to find ways to win. A fighters fighter. Chavez not so diverse imo though he was a better boxer prior to 135, on his toes and sharp puncher. As he went and developed almost became more of a stalker with tremendous punch placement. Fast mover fast hands Randall, Whitaker, Taylor gave him problems. Save for Camacho and Lonnie Smith but that more have been more about the 101 butterflies in their head and stomachs . Exactly on Hopkins vs Toney and way I see it had it kicked off. At that point Hopkins was not the lay back sniper laying in and still think the feet of Toney would have been to flat and he'd be outhustled by Hopkins.