Slugger vs. Swarmer.

[Master]

So there you have it GaMo. Quality over quantity with Kostya which is why he only a fewer fights than others.

[GaMo]

So there you have it GaMo. Quality over quantity with Kostya which is why he only a fewer fights than others.

What quality? Judah is his best win don’t think Cotto or Mayweather consider Judah the best guy they beat because they actually fought the best. Tszyu didn’t even lose to the elite!

[mikeeod]

So there you have it GaMo. Quality over quantity with Kostya which is why he only a fewer fights than others.

What quality? Judah is his best win don’t think Cotto or Mayweather consider Judah the best guy they beat because they actually fought the best. Tszyu didn’t even lose to the elite!

This is all opinion, so not saying mine is valid and yours isn't, but undefeated fighters are the hardest to defeat.(as the saying goes). The version of Judah that Kostya beat was the best version we saw (MUCH better than the one Cotto and Paulie beat), and Kostya destroyed him. Master is right when he says Judah came back for some decent wins after, and even showed glimpses of Great potential in some losses, but Zab became inconsistent after that first loss.

I also don't think you give Sharmba Mitchell as much credit as he deserves. Mitchell was a very good fighter, with solid boxing skills and good speed. Kostya definitely doesn't have the quality of opposition that Manny, Hop, Evander, Oscar...etc. had, but he didn't duck or fight weak opposition either.

[Master]

So there you have it GaMo. Quality over quantity with Kostya which is why he only a fewer fights than others.

What quality? Judah is his best win don’t think Cotto or Mayweather consider Judah the best guy they beat because they actually fought the best. Tszyu didn’t even lose to the elite!

This is all opinion, so not saying mine is valid and yours isn't, but undefeated fighters are the hardest to defeat.(as the saying goes). The version of Judah that Kostya beat was the best version we saw (MUCH better than the one Cotto and Paulie beat), and Kostya destroyed him. Master is right when he says Judah came back for some decent wins after, and even showed glimpses of Great potential in some losses, but Zab became inconsistent after that first loss.

I also don't think you give Sharmba Mitchell as much credit as he deserves. Mitchell was a very good fighter, with solid boxing skills and good speed. Kostya definitely doesn't have the quality of opposition that Manny, Hop, Evander, Oscar...etc. had, but he didn't duck or fight weak opposition either.

Exactly.

By the time Floyd and Cotto fought Zab he was not the top fighter he was when he lost for the first time. They had the sloppy seconds of Tszyu.

[GaMo]

Judah isn’t anything special! I’m not sure why you’re trying to make out he was a great fighter when his best win (coming in against Tszyu) was against Mickey Ward. Tszyu was getting blasted around the ring in the first round and his victory could be described as a lucky punch. As for Mitchell... he was knocked out by light punchers twice at lightweight so is that win really impressive!? Floyd also stopped Mitchell so Tszyu’s two biggest wins are shared by Floyd but they’re not big wins for him because he done so much more.

[Master]

Judah isn’t anything special! I’m not sure why you’re trying to make out he was a great fighter when his best win (coming in against Tszyu) was against Mickey Ward. Tszyu was getting blasted around the ring in the first round and his victory could be described as a lucky punch. As for Mitchell... he was knocked out by light punchers twice at lightweight so is that win really impressive!? Floyd also stopped Mitchell so Tszyu’s two biggest wins are shared by Floyd but they’re not big wins for him because he done so much more.

The reason why Zab and Micthell are not great wins for Floyd was because they were finished at the top level by the time he fought them.

One of Kostya best wins was against Miguel Angel Gonzalez. He was indestructible that night.

[GaMo]

Judah isn’t anything special! I’m not sure why you’re trying to make out he was a great fighter when his best win (coming in against Tszyu) was against Mickey Ward. Tszyu was getting blasted around the ring in the first round and his victory could be described as a lucky punch. As for Mitchell... he was knocked out by light punchers twice at lightweight so is that win really impressive!? Floyd also stopped Mitchell so Tszyu’s two biggest wins are shared by Floyd but they’re not big wins for him because he done so much more.

The reason why Zab and Micthell are not great wins for Floyd was because they were finished at the top level by the time he fought them.

One of Kostya best wins was against Miguel Angel Gonzalez. He was indestructible that night.

Gonzalez? He was a De La Hoya leftover as were Rulaes, Lejai and Chavez. All four were finished by the time Tszyu beat them.

[Ron Swanson]

Judah isn’t anything special! I’m not sure why you’re trying to make out he was a great fighter when his best win (coming in against Tszyu) was against Mickey Ward. Tszyu was getting blasted around the ring in the first round and his victory could be described as a lucky punch. As for Mitchell... he was knocked out by light punchers twice at lightweight so is that win really impressive!? Floyd also stopped Mitchell so Tszyu’s two biggest wins are shared by Floyd but they’re not big wins for him because he done so much more.

Could be described by who as a lucky punch? Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows there is no such thing.

[mikeeod]

Judah isn’t anything special! I’m not sure why you’re trying to make out he was a great fighter when his best win (coming in against Tszyu) was against Mickey Ward. Tszyu was getting blasted around the ring in the first round and his victory could be described as a lucky punch. As for Mitchell... he was knocked out by light punchers twice at lightweight so is that win really impressive!? Floyd also stopped Mitchell so Tszyu’s two biggest wins are shared by Floyd but they’re not big wins for him because he done so much more.

Could be described by who as a lucky punch? Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows there is no such thing.

Kostya set that punch up. Definitely not luck. Watch it again and you will see that he barely missed Judah with that punch a few seconds before he landed that bomb.