M.I.A - Keith Thurman

[GaMo]

I think you're the one who is trolling because you can't believe that

Danny Garcia has fought Keith Thurman, Amir Khan, Lucas Matthysse and Lamont Peterson

Keith Thurman has fought Shawn Porter, Diego Chaves, Leonard Bundu and Danny Garcia

Alvarez has fought Austin Trout, Floyd Mayweather, Gennady Golovkin, Miguel Cotto and Erislandy Lara

So who the fuck have those guys ducked and when did any of them quit!?

Danny Garcia had Postol on his payroll for like a year rather than fight him. He came to 147 and avoided everyone until Thurman. He won’t fight Spence, he is quite clear about that. He won’t even fight Porter for his rematch with Thurman. That’s multiple fighter Postol/Porter off the top of my head that I can think of that he was ordered to fight and refused. Ordered and refused.

Keith Thurman has been a real champ since 3-17-15 against Guerrero(same soft opponent as Garcia, coincidence, perhaps to the stupid) so his whole title reign the other top guy has been Brook up until Spence. He has been offered to fight both. He has accepted to fight neither. Is this getting clear for you yet?

Alvarez, just too easy hiding from 154 and 160 at Caneloweight

Eubank had GGG on a platter and he hid. He would have made more for that fight than he’s made ever, by far.

Avoiding the hard fights, avoiding the hard fights. Avoiding the hard fights. Avoiding the hard fights. You aren’t dull enough to believe Canelo was waiting to grow into MW are you? You don’t think Liam Smith was the best titleholder at 154 do you? No, you know Canelo had to get away from Caneloweight and pick up a belt or look a chump running from GGG and you know he picked the weakest champ on purpose. You have to know this, it’s completely obvious

So you expect Garcia to fight everyone? Postol won a belt Garcia vacated by beating a man that Garcia already beat (Matthysse) he then lost to Crawford so I'm not sure why you think Garcia ducked him. Porter had lost his title to Brook and then he lost again to Thurman (who Garcia fought) so you're angry because Garcia fought the winner (Thurman) instead of the loser (Porter)

Brook beat Porter but who else has he actually beaten? If you compare his record to that of Garcia and Thurman he comes up short. Thurman also has a win over Porter (who you seem to think is some sort of god) so he has Brook's best win and a lot more. As for Spence he beat Bundu (who Thurman also beat) Algieri (who everyone beat) and who else? Spence has only been around at the top for about a year so nobody has avoided him.

Canelo cleaned out 154 (Angulo, Kirkland, Lara and Trout) there was nobody left for him to fight at 154 (who did he duck?) everyone wanted him to go to 160 and fight Golovkin so he did just that and you're still not happy! Fact is Alvarez moved up from 154 to fight the number one guy at 160, Garcia moved up from 140 to fight the best guy at 147 but Golovkin refused to move from 160 to fight the best at 168 so who is the real bitch?

[Ron Swanson]

I think you're the one who is trolling because you can't believe that

Danny Garcia has fought Keith Thurman, Amir Khan, Lucas Matthysse and Lamont Peterson

Keith Thurman has fought Shawn Porter, Diego Chaves, Leonard Bundu and Danny Garcia

Alvarez has fought Austin Trout, Floyd Mayweather, Gennady Golovkin, Miguel Cotto and Erislandy Lara

So who the fuck have those guys ducked and when did any of them quit!?

Danny Garcia had Postol on his payroll for like a year rather than fight him. He came to 147 and avoided everyone until Thurman. He won’t fight Spence, he is quite clear about that. He won’t even fight Porter for his rematch with Thurman. That’s multiple fighter Postol/Porter off the top of my head that I can think of that he was ordered to fight and refused. Ordered and refused.

Keith Thurman has been a real champ since 3-17-15 against Guerrero(same soft opponent as Garcia, coincidence, perhaps to the stupid) so his whole title reign the other top guy has been Brook up until Spence. He has been offered to fight both. He has accepted to fight neither. Is this getting clear for you yet?

Alvarez, just too easy hiding from 154 and 160 at Caneloweight

Eubank had GGG on a platter and he hid. He would have made more for that fight than he’s made ever, by far.

Avoiding the hard fights, avoiding the hard fights. Avoiding the hard fights. Avoiding the hard fights. You aren’t dull enough to believe Canelo was waiting to grow into MW are you? You don’t think Liam Smith was the best titleholder at 154 do you? No, you know Canelo had to get away from Caneloweight and pick up a belt or look a chump running from GGG and you know he picked the weakest champ on purpose. You have to know this, it’s completely obvious

So you expect Garcia to fight everyone? Postol won a belt Garcia vacated by beating a man that Garcia already beat (Matthysse) he then lost to Crawford so I'm not sure why you think Garcia ducked him. Porter had lost his title to Brook and then he lost again to Thurman (who Garcia fought) so you're angry because Garcia fought the winner (Thurman) instead of the loser (Porter)

Brook beat Porter but who else has he actually beaten? If you compare his record to that of Garcia and Thurman he comes up short. Thurman also has a win over Porter (who you seem to think is some sort of god) so he has Brook's best win and a lot more. As for Spence he beat Bundu (who Thurman also beat) Algieri (who everyone beat) and who else? Spence has only been around at the top for about a year so nobody has avoided him.

Canelo cleaned out 154 (Angulo, Kirkland, Lara and Trout) there was nobody left for him to fight at 154 (who did he duck?) everyone wanted him to go to 160 and fight Golovkin so he did just that and you're still not happy! Fact is Alvarez moved up from 154 to fight the number one guy at 160, Garcia moved up from 140 to fight the best guy at 147 but Golovkin refused to move from 160 to fight the best at 168 so who is the real bitch?

My gawd man, you can’t be this dense you are listing a guy ducking in defense that he never ducked! You said “Postol won a belt that Garcia vacated” there it is. First he paid him step aside twice, then he vacated. He was on Garcia’s f’n payroll and then Garcia gave up his belt to avoid him. It’s textbook 🦆. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Garcia is scared of anyone. But he has been very carefully managed and maneuvered.

You list a lot of crap that has nothing to do with nothing. And it’s incorrect on top of that. I think you do it on purpose. I’ll go farther, I think you are Master doing a 2nd personality. Because you have the same debating style of listing incorrect things that have nothing to do with the topic to distract.

You talk about Crawford beating Postol after, as if that means anything. It’s after. And it’s Crawford. Not Garcia

You say I think he should have fought Porter instead of Thurman. No! I was talking about Garcia being ordered to fight Porter, as I said, to get the rematch with Thurman. Which Garcia’s refused. Incorrect information to distract.

That’s just to get through one paragraph of your nonsense, irrelevant information with innacuracies.

I don’t have enough time to correct all the stuff you said that was wrong. I’ll just finish by saying if you think Canelo cleaned out 154 you are delusional

[GaMo]

Who was Postol? he was a nobody before he picked up that belt beating a Garcia leftover. Danny moved up in weight so that's why they never fought. Do you actually expect a fighter to fight every single person? Andre Ward should have fought Andre Dirrell and Lucian Bute in that case. Postal didn't make a single defence of that belt so I'm not sure why you're riding his cock like he's some sort of killer that Garcia lost sleep over.

I just blew your post away with facts and have no comeback because you know I'm correct but you just won't admit it. I'm not even a fan of Garcia or Thurman and to be honest I wouldn't care if I never saw either of them in the ring again but the fact is they're fought a lot of top guys and anyone accusing them of ducking is just a bias idiot (like yourself)

[Ron Swanson]

Who was Postol? he was a nobody before he picked up that belt beating a Garcia leftover. Danny moved up in weight so that's why they never fought. Do you actually expect a fighter to fight every single person? Andre Ward should have fought Andre Dirrell and Lucian Bute in that case. Postal didn't make a single defence of that belt so I'm not sure why you're riding his cock like he's some sort of killer that Garcia lost sleep over.

I just blew your post away with facts and have no comeback because you know I'm correct but you just won't admit it. I'm not even a fan of Garcia or Thurman and to be honest I wouldn't care if I never saw either of them in the ring again but the fact is they're fought a lot of top guys and anyone accusing them of ducking is just a bias idiot (like yourself)

You post no facts. If he was a nobody then Garcia wouldn’t have had to pay him to not fight him

[GaMo]

Paying step aside money isn’t that uncommon and it’s not a big deal. Who did Canelo avoid at 154 then? Amuse me

[Ron Swanson]

It’s literally avoiding a fight to pay “substantial amount” to not fight someone. You ha e to understand this Master. You have to be pretending. Nobody is so dense.

Since you don’t seem to understand the facts

http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...h-an-agreement

And Canelo avoided literally EVERYONE at 154 and 160 by fighting at Caneloweight. If he fought at 154 he would have been put into a mandatory spot he didn’t want. That was the point of Caneloweight. To avoid 154 and 160

[GaMo]

So you can't give me any names of the people Alvarez ducked I thought as much. Garcia was so scared of some unknown European that he ducked him to move up in weight to fight the number one guy in the division... that's your logic Postal is more scary than Thurman! You're making yourself look silly so just stop while you're behind.

[Batman]

Canelo cleaned out 154 (Angulo, Kirkland, Lara and Trout)

Angulo - catchweight
Kirkland - catchweight
Lara - Catchweight

christ even when he fought Cotto for the middleweight title it was at a catchweight

[GaMo]

Canelo cleaned out 154 (Angulo, Kirkland, Lara and Trout)

Angulo - catchweight
Kirkland - catchweight
Lara - Catchweight

christ even when he fought Cotto for the middleweight title it was at a catchweight

He won the WBC, WBO, WBA and Ring Magazine belts at 154

Liam Smith 23-0 (WBO Champ)
Erislandy Lara 19-1
James Kirkland 32-1
Austin Trout 26-0 (WBA Champ)
Alfredo Angulo 22-3

[Primo Carnera]

Canelo cleaned out 154 (Angulo, Kirkland, Lara and Trout)

Angulo - catchweight
Kirkland - catchweight
Lara - Catchweight

christ even when he fought Cotto for the middleweight title it was at a catchweight

He won the WBC, WBO, WBA and Ring Magazine belts at 154

Liam Smith 23-0 (WBO Champ)
Erislandy Lara 19-1
James Kirkland 32-1
Austin Trout 26-0 (WBA Champ)
Alfredo Angulo 22-3

Yeah nice one. Ignore the bit about catchweights.

[GaMo]

Canelo cleaned out 154 (Angulo, Kirkland, Lara and Trout)

Angulo - catchweight
Kirkland - catchweight
Lara - Catchweight

christ even when he fought Cotto for the middleweight title it was at a catchweight

He won the WBC, WBO, WBA and Ring Magazine belts at 154

Liam Smith 23-0 (WBO Champ)
Erislandy Lara 19-1
James Kirkland 32-1
Austin Trout 26-0 (WBA Champ)
Alfredo Angulo 22-3

Yeah nice one. Ignore the bit about catchweights.

Who cares? If the fighters had a problem with it then they should not have agreed to it but they did so no excuses.

[powerpuncher]

Haven’t you guys learned long ago that Gma is a troll who doesn’t believe anything he says? He just argues to get a rise out of people. Nobody is that dilusional to believe what he tries to argue.

[Spicoli]

Last thing we need is another thread about some guy who has lost his two biggest fights . Plenty of Canelo to come. Saw the short showtime press conference with Thurman-Spence. Why does Thurman always come off like he's trying to sell me a car he isn't sure he'd buy. Sounds like he'll be fighting "first quarter of 2018". Spence says come see me