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    Default Re: Is VADA too strict?

    I can honestly see why some athletes state that they do not know what their trainer gives them. It is a matter of trust, just like how you trust your coach or team owner. Now, that is not to say that Ortiz did not know what he was taking. But it is to say that you simply should not be made to worry about that when your life is on the line.

    And I don't particularly think the idea of calling guys out for VADA or any kind of dope-testing means that it makes the person calling the other person out any better. You simply can call for it when you KNOW you are either clean or not on it at that particular moment, so within weeks before the first test you can test clean legitimately.

    I CAN PUT MY HEAD ON A CHOPPING BLOCK and state that guys who make the first call for Dope-Testing are slightly overweight, but not necessarily out of shape. A guy who fights at 147, but jacked to the sky walking around at about 160 or more. Then they near kill themselves weight draining to make weight.... smt....

    Floyd was HELLA SMART for calling his fight days around certain times of the year. May or September, so he KNEW when he should have his body ready to fight and be trained to fight. The last fight of any significance Floyd had OUTSIDE OF THE May or September dates was the Hatton fight- which right afterwards he announced his year long retirement. Coincidence?
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    They have enough time to check that if they wanted to, they cant be bothered that's why they have trainers, managers, etc. Everything is fine and good till they get caught and then people start pointing fingers. The promoter blames the team, the manager blames the trainer, the trainer catches the worst of it even though he doesn't know what the fighter does outside the gym. There has to be a 0 tolerance policy starting with the fighter (im a natural fighter but coach the doc said i need these pills for my heart, blood, iron, whatever), then the trainer (tell your managers to contact the doping agencies and file for exemptions, etc), then the manager (I would contact the doping agency but the promoter says to go through him since he knows a guy), then the promoter (get the money first and then worry about controversy after.)

    Now fighters get too lazy because they're out pissing their money away or figuring the world needs them so they'll get a pass... The trainer figures that's not my job. The training is the same with or without drugs.) .... The manager says (that's a drug/substance issue, i just do the paper work let the promoter smooth it over he has all the influence..... The promoter says this happens all the time, we'll pay someone to release a B sample that's clean.... The ball can be dropped any number of places if this is how they plan to play it. This is why fighters with the stronger teams have the least amount of problems. On teams where everyone's b*tching about their cut... the solution is always to cut out another member of the team.
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