Colin Kaepernick and the absurdity of the NFL

[Spicoli]

only 1 way to look at it Spicoli:

we cannot protest on our jobs, dunno bout u, but we get fired in America for taking a knee in the office and doing political statements at work.

Therefore:


FIRE THEIR STUPID IGNORANT ASSES

Don't know about where you work but we don't have mandated moments to pledge or recite oaths before we clock in or on the clock. Technically speaking what a ball player does prior to the start of official game time is on them I'd imagine. Hell players didn't even take the field during anthem until what, less than a decade ago? They also had a owner-player meeting and decided to meet later keeping things as they are in the interim? Sounds like a business addressing things internally and it is literally none of my business though I'm free to burn as many jerseys and ball caps with a flag logo on them that I want. Not sure what makes players ignorant and just think you guys in such a rabble rabble roar up are almost giving these players too much credit for having an impact on my personal life they really do not have. It really is a non issue in my eyes and simply a shiny object. Meanwhile during the next massive fight I like majority of fans will be griping about listening to multiple anthems being dragged out before a fight . And I won't be standing and chances are I'll be consuming large amounts of adult beverages and typing on a keyboard or god forbid taking a quick wiz as not to miss a round. Surely does not make me any less of a proud American and believer in this Republic.

i'm sure the anthem is part of thhe game, the whole production, fans are there, cameras rolling, you cannot do political statements at work AND YOU KNOW IT.

So, military fly overs previously or currently paid for by DOD, same as military appreciation days, a National Anthem sang proudly for thousands, teams visiting White House and Presidents calling teams and a football field size American flag flowing over the players field..but sure no political statements of any type allowed 'at work'. Gotcha .

the entire subject is based on emotional reaction, but hey all the power to ya wherever you land on the matter. We're 'Muricans, we protest and rise up and we literally wrote the book.

[brocktonblockbust]

only 1 way to look at it Spicoli:

we cannot protest on our jobs, dunno bout u, but we get fired in America for taking a knee in the office and doing political statements at work.

Therefore:


FIRE THEIR STUPID IGNORANT ASSES

Don't know about where you work but we don't have mandated moments to pledge or recite oaths before we clock in or on the clock. Technically speaking what a ball player does prior to the start of official game time is on them I'd imagine. Hell players didn't even take the field during anthem until what, less than a decade ago? They also had a owner-player meeting and decided to meet later keeping things as they are in the interim? Sounds like a business addressing things internally and it is literally none of my business though I'm free to burn as many jerseys and ball caps with a flag logo on them that I want. Not sure what makes players ignorant and just think you guys in such a rabble rabble roar up are almost giving these players too much credit for having an impact on my personal life they really do not have. It really is a non issue in my eyes and simply a shiny object. Meanwhile during the next massive fight I like majority of fans will be griping about listening to multiple anthems being dragged out before a fight . And I won't be standing and chances are I'll be consuming large amounts of adult beverages and typing on a keyboard or god forbid taking a quick wiz as not to miss a round. Surely does not make me any less of a proud American and believer in this Republic.

i'm sure the anthem is part of thhe game, the whole production, fans are there, cameras rolling, you cannot do political statements at work AND YOU KNOW IT.

So, military fly overs previously or currently paid for by DOD, same as military appreciation days, a National Anthem sang proudly for thousands, teams visiting White House and Presidents calling teams and a football field size American flag flowing over the players field..but sure no political statements of any type allowed 'at work'. Gotcha .

the entire subject is based on emotional reaction, but hey all the power to ya wherever you land on the matter. We're 'Muricans, we protest and rise up and we literally wrote the book.

dude r u seriously saying that military flyovers and patriotism are "political statements"?? Seriously?!!!!! @Spicoli

[TitoFan]

Colin gets paid to strap on a helmet and run offensive plays as QB. Not to stand during the national anthem.
Kudos to him for expressing his personal beliefs in a way he knows will rain shit down on top of his head.

[El Kabong]

The NFL is a tax exempt business......it would really be a shame if something changed all that


I'm fine with there not being flyovers at NFL games or what have you.....either stand for the Anthem or stay in the locker room do your protesting on YOUR time not on company time.



Anything wrong with that?

[TitoFan]

If he stayed in the locker room, no one would even notice, except his coach and team, maybe. This way, he's drawing attention to an issue most people would rather see buried in page 90 of the newspaper (where they still print those). Again with the ostrich analogy. Just because the ostrich sticks his head in the sand, it doesn't mean the problems around him automatically go away. Colin took a brave stand, and is paying the consequences. Good for him.

[El Kabong]

If he stayed in the locker room, no one would even notice, except his coach and team, maybe. This way, he's drawing attention to an issue most people would rather see buried in page 90 of the newspaper (where they still print those). Again with the ostrich analogy. Just because the ostrich sticks his head in the sand, it doesn't mean the problems around him automatically go away. Colin took a brave stand, and is paying the consequences. Good for him.

You misunderstand, I'm saying the TEAMS they can either stand altogether or stay in the locker room altogether.

If Colin Kaepernick would like to address his own personal pet projects on his own time then he's free to do that. He's free to talk them up when he's interviewed, he's free to invite fans to the ghetto and help do community service, and they'd be willing to help him out, I guarantee it black white, red, brown, it wouldn't matter.....but American people are proud of their flag and they're proud of their National Anthem, their proud of their military and first responders.....kneeling stands in direct opposition to that whether the kneelers would like to believe that or not.



I AM speaking English right? This is getting through right?



Perception is reality, and when a Che Guevara t-shirt wearing Woke ass MultiMillionaire feels like lecturing everyday Americans on how unfair and unjust our society is, don't expect many people to lean in and listen real intently to his bullshit, they're just there to watch some football, leave the politics at home.....or ya know, don't and just have fun trying to find a team. Be a martyr because you've got a stupid way to try and spread a message.

[TitoFan]

If he stayed in the locker room, no one would even notice, except his coach and team, maybe. This way, he's drawing attention to an issue most people would rather see buried in page 90 of the newspaper (where they still print those). Again with the ostrich analogy. Just because the ostrich sticks his head in the sand, it doesn't mean the problems around him automatically go away. Colin took a brave stand, and is paying the consequences. Good for him.

You misunderstand, I'm saying the TEAMS they can either stand altogether or stay in the locker room altogether.

If Colin Kaepernick would like to address his own personal pet projects on his own time then he's free to do that. He's free to talk them up when he's interviewed, he's free to invite fans to the ghetto and help do community service, and they'd be willing to help him out, I guarantee it black white, red, brown, it wouldn't matter.....but American people are proud of their flag and they're proud of their National Anthem, their proud of their military and first responders.....kneeling stands in direct opposition to that whether the kneelers would like to believe that or not.



I AM speaking English right? This is getting through right?



Perception is reality, and when a Che Guevara t-shirt wearing Woke ass MultiMillionaire feels like lecturing everyday Americans on how unfair and unjust our society is, don't expect many people to lean in and listen real intently to his bullshit, they're just there to watch some football, leave the politics at home.....or ya know, don't and just have fun trying to find a team. Be a martyr because you've got a stupid way to try and spread a message.

The language bit is unnecessary and abrasive.

I think I already stated earlier in the thread that, were Colin to try and express his message through regular interviews, it'd be like "Uhh... yeah... see you later Colin. Hey "other QB".... so what did you think of your team's offensive showing today?" Again... when the king wants the court jester's opinion on something, he'll beat it out of him. Bottom line here is: you don't think there's a problem or there has EVER been a problem. So when someone who DOES think there's a problem interrupts your precious football PRE-game with a couple of minutes of kneel-down demonstration, it sticks in your craw.

[El Kabong]

The language bit is unnecessary and abrasive.

I think I already stated earlier in the thread that, were Colin to try and express his message through regular interviews, it'd be like "Uhh... yeah... see you later Colin. Hey "other QB".... so what did you think of your team's offensive showing today?" Again... when the king wants the court jester's opinion on something, he'll beat it out of him. Bottom line here is: you don't think there's a problem or there has EVER been a problem. So when someone who DOES think there's a problem interrupts your precious football PRE-game with a couple of minutes of kneel-down demonstration, it sticks in your craw.

I did not mean for the language bit to be a dig at you, honestly I did not. I am just kind of at a loss as to what the actual fuck is going on in this country where it's just ok to burn everything down about a country just because in the past we haven't gotten things 100% correct and I have no doubt that is what Colin Kaepernick wants to do, and I have no doubt that's what Black Lives Matter wants to do, how do I know? I've read their demands lists and yes they are INSANE HORSE SHIT.



You don't think ESPN, which has become weaponized politically, would give Colin Kaepernick the air time? I'd be willing to bet they compare Colin Kaepernick to Jackie Robinson and Muhammad Ali before too long, I'd be willing to bet it actually.


Colin Kaepernick got a free ride to the University of Nevada, he was paid MILLIONS by the San Francisco 49ers, HE opted out of his contract, his girlfriend stirred the turd with the Baltimore Ravens who were going to make him an offer....I'm sorry, I fail to see how I the "privileged white guy" have more privilege than that dude. If I protested at work I'd be fired, FACT.