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    Default Re: Wilder-Stiverne II/Porter/Granados/Breazeale/Molina/Lipinetts - SKY/Showtime

    Teach AJ to effectively close the distance and smother Wilder's punchers and its over. Nothing to really gain from the Stiverne rematch except that Stiverne hasn't learned anything and Wilder wasn't in there long enough to injure himself this time. AJ can still get caught at a distance, because he will have the same problem a lot of big heavyweights have and that's getting used to being the bigger man in the ring. Wilder's game is Kinetic. He has to be moving forward to get force on his shots. So he'd fight Joshua the same he fought anyone else. Hang around the outside and try to catch Joshua and sting him with a one two or a straight right or set a trap for Joshua to Throw the right over his jab, fall short and get caught by the left. Then close in swarm and finish the job. You could see even with stiverne, that wilders accuracy suffers when he closes, because he starts flailing for an emphatic knockout. Wilders lost on the fundamentals. I don't want to say you cant get that back but its hard to correct the foundation of a house without rebuilding the rest of the house too.

    If someone teaches Joshua to parry, use his legs to get under punches, and use his angles... It can be easier than most people think for Joshua to smother him. If Joshua shells up and rolls forward like a tank, he's setting himself up to be stung. I'd also say there is a decent shot of wilder injuring himself trying to door knocker/ slappy cuff Joshua.
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    Default Re: Wilder-Stiverne II/Porter/Granados/Breazeale/Molina/Lipinetts - SKY/Showtime

    Stivern didn't even try. He didn't look like he wanted to be in the ring. He was only there to get paid.

    I wonder what the terms are for his contract with Don King. How many more fights does he own him for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Stivern didn't even try. He didn't look like he wanted to be in the ring. He was only there to get paid.

    I wonder what the terms are for his contract with Don King. How many more fights does he own him for?
    I think this will be his last fight and he will retire with what little he is left with after King makes his deductions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Stivern didn't even try. He didn't look like he wanted to be in the ring. He was only there to get paid.

    I wonder what the terms are for his contract with Don King. How many more fights does he own him for?
    I think this will be his last fight and he will retire with what little he is left with after King makes his deductions.
    I read his purse was 500K. How much will be left after King takes his chunk?

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    Default Re: Wilder-Stiverne II/Porter/Granados/Breazeale/Molina/Lipinetts - SKY/Showtime

    Stiverne was a disgrace. Can’t fault Wilder for the fight though.

    Lipinets is a good fighter but is very fortunate that he didn’t have to fight Crawford because he would have gotten completely destroyed. Now he can enjoy being a top contender at 140 and making a name for himself until Garcia moves up and beats him.

    Granados is hard to root against. He has so much heart. Him saying that he won at the end kind of left a bad taste in my mouth though. He had a ton of heart but in no way won the fight.

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    Default Re: Wilder-Stiverne II/Porter/Granados/Breazeale/Molina/Lipinetts - SKY/Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Stivern didn't even try. He didn't look like he wanted to be in the ring. He was only there to get paid.

    I wonder what the terms are for his contract with Don King. How many more fights does he own him for?
    I think this will be his last fight and he will retire with what little he is left with after King makes his deductions.
    I read his purse was 500K. How much will be left after King takes his chunk?
    10% so maybe Stiverne comes back and rebuilds again.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Wilder-Stiverne II/Porter/Granados/Breazeale/Molina/Lipinetts - SKY/Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Stivern didn't even try. He didn't look like he wanted to be in the ring. He was only there to get paid.

    I wonder what the terms are for his contract with Don King. How many more fights does he own him for?
    I think this will be his last fight and he will retire with what little he is left with after King makes his deductions.
    I read his purse was 500K. How much will be left after King takes his chunk?
    10% so maybe Stiverne comes back and rebuilds again.
    Yeah, maybe. Or maybe he stopped off after the fight for bargain bucket and a box of dunkin donuts, because his training camp was so strict he deserved a treat!
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    Default Re: Wilder-Stiverne II/Porter/Granados/Breazeale/Molina/Lipinetts - SKY/Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Stivern didn't even try. He didn't look like he wanted to be in the ring. He was only there to get paid.

    I wonder what the terms are for his contract with Don King. How many more fights does he own him for?
    I think this will be his last fight and he will retire with what little he is left with after King makes his deductions.
    I read his purse was 500K. How much will be left after King takes his chunk?
    10% so maybe Stiverne comes back and rebuilds again.
    Yeah, maybe. Or maybe he stopped off after the fight for bargain bucket and a box of dunkin donuts, because his training camp was so strict he deserved a treat!
    I sense a lot of hostility in your posts about Stiverne.

    Stiverne did a Buster Douglas.
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