Who beats 1982 Aaron Pryor?.....{crickets}

[Alpha]

Not many. Pryor would have given every ATG a tough time. I would have loved to see a Meldrick Taylor or Duran fight.

[Fenster]

This guy is beating nearly every great 140-pounder in history? Lets bear in mind, Kameda never got past Japanese title level, Terry Marsh stopped him. Terry Marsh.

Now I ain't saying Pryor wasn't a brilliant fighter, but to think today's fighters couldn't live with your boyhood heroes is ridiculous.

Try watching with a clean slate.

[Master]

Terry Marsh would have beaten Pryor after watching that video.

[TitoFan]

Pryor dismantled one of boxing's ATGs in Alexis Arguello. Not once, but twice. But hey... he had a rough night against Akio Kameda, so now that I think about it, he's shit. Hell... today's 140-pounders would've swept the floor with him. FFS.

If worshiping boyhood heroes is bad, blinders to every great fighter in history is even worse. But then I saw this coming with the argument that Ali-Frazier I wasn't that big of a HW title fight.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Big questions marks about Pryor now, i have watched most of his fights many times and he looks wired against Arguello both times, but he was fighting a smaller guy and still got hit a lot.
I used to think he would beat Leonard, but i have altered my opinion on that, Leonard wins a clear decision IMO. Duran in 1979/80 after moving up would've landed a huge shot and probably knocked him out.
Pryor was aggressive and attacking, but woefully reckless. Duran was aggressive, but he was far more measured and a far better boxer.
Mosley beats him, DLH beats him, Tszyu may knock him out in the first or 2nd round! Floyd doesn't lose a round.

[Alpha]

If Castillo and Maidana put hands on Floyd, Pryor f-cks him up.

[Alpha]

A guy like Loi would on the other hand.

[Fenster]

Not sure I'd go as far as picking all the greats to beat him but it really is hard to see a guy so careless/clueless/wild, that is struggling with below elite class competition having much success against modern greats.

Just look how he CONSTANTLY squares up and rightly gets punished? He is literally running face first at fighters. To his credit he is crazy tough, but it's hard to envisage a Mosley, Oscar, Kostya, Floyd, Pac, etc, not making him severely pay, he's begging for one straight down the pipe, the difference being I highly doubt they'd let him off the hook.

[Fenster]

Dujuan Johnson lost two from his next four before getting shot dead, this was the only time he ever fought in world-class. Now i'm not saying he was a poor fighter, but if he's rocking and rolling Pryor all over the shop, you're not selling me that the man is walking through all the greats in history just because he "beat" Arguello.

[Dia bando]

Pryor dismantled one of boxing's ATGs in Alexis Arguello. Not once, but twice. But hey... he had a rough night against Akio Kameda, so now that I think about it, he's shit. Hell... today's 140-pounders would've swept the floor with him. FFS.

If worshiping boyhood heroes is bad, blinders to every great fighter in history is even worse. But then I saw this coming with the argument that Ali-Frazier I wasn't that big of a HW title fight.

Spot on Tito one bad performance does not make you a shit fighter in boxing one bad performance or you loose a fight boxing fans are quick to say a fighter is finished.
Boxing fans are a funny breed but its how it goes.

[Mr140]

The Hawk never moved up in his prime and his division was pretty baron his best win is over a great fighter but he was way over his peak weight. I mean the golden era of boxing was happening above the guy and he is not going to move and try to get into the mix by fighting some contenders at 147 it always seemed weird to me. The man was tough but really wild and left open all the time Leonard wins pretty wide decision, Duran is closer call and I think Hearns puts him to sleep early.

[TitoFan]

Most "fans" who easily dismiss fighters from earlier eras can't even be bothered to watch their fights. They fawn over today's stars, and subscribe to the laughable, flimsy premise that they're somehow superior. Would Pryor have beaten the likes of Leonard, Duran, or Hearns? Probably not. But to automatically dismiss him because of his style is a bit ignorant. Pryor was a swarmer, but a swarmer with power. Many of those mentioned from today would've wilted under the never ending pressure. It's one thing to wade in there without the threat of knockout power... it's quite another to contend with bombs coming non-stop from every angle. Pryor had a decent chin, too. That must be considered. Arguello teed off and hit Pryor several times with shots that would've dropped most any other opponent. Pryor blinked, paused, and moved on. Yes, Arguello had gone up in weight, but he carried the power with him.

[mikeeod]

The Hawk never moved up in his prime and his division was pretty baron his best win is over a great fighter but he was way over his peak weight. I mean the golden era of boxing was happening above the guy and he is not going to move and try to get into the mix by fighting some contenders at 147 it always seemed weird to me. The man was tough but really wild and left open all the time Leonard wins pretty wide decision, Duran is closer call and I think Hearns puts him to sleep early.

I've made this point before, but think it is worth repeating here: some fighters have styles and physical gifts that "click" at a certain weight, and only that weight. Monzon and a Hagler are two great examples of this. It is difficult to pick against either in any mythical match up (p4p or otherwise), yet they remained at one weight throughout their careers. Pryor was like that at 140.

There are many old timers who claim Leonard wanted nothing to do with Pryor and that Pryor had his way with Leonard during training/competing in the amateurs. This may or may not be true, but I'm not 100% sold that Pryor has no hope based off of one or two poor performances. Styles, lack of motivation...etc., can impact a fighter's performance, and Leonard had a couple of fights where he looked less than stellar as well (Howard Davis as an example).

Some fighters are swarmers who have a very unorthodox style and rhythm which throws off other fighters. Prime Johnny Tapia, Joe Calzaghe, and even Pac Man are examples. Joe was very similar in that he threw many punches and often seemed to be wide open due to having his hands down, but proved much harder to hit than what was anticipated. Pryor had a great chin also, and this only made him that much more brazen and difficult to beat.

Could Ray, Tommy...etc., beaten Pryor? Sure. Was he overhyped and not as great as people make him out to be? Not in my opinion. Aaron Pryor had the style, attitude, and physical gifts to beat anyone at his weight, and proved this by cleaning the weight class out. Every time you have that dominant a champ, you have people criticizing their level of competition (Hop, Joe Loius, Wlad, Kostya...etc.).

[Fenster]

Pryor dismantled one of boxing's ATGs in Alexis Arguello. Not once, but twice. But hey... he had a rough night against Akio Kameda, so now that I think about it, he's shit. Hell... today's 140-pounders would've swept the floor with him. FFS.

If worshiping boyhood heroes is bad, blinders to every great fighter in history is even worse. But then I saw this coming with the argument that Ali-Frazier I wasn't that big of a HW title fight.

@TitoFan - this is your final warning. I have tired of politely asking you to stop misrepresenting my posts, telling blatant lies about me. You can follow me all over the forum throwing insults at me, call me a moron, an areshole, a cunt whatever. What you can't do is continually say I said things I didn't. Please consider this carefully. Thanks.

[brocktonblockbust]

Aaron Pryor was unstoppable.