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    Default Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes

    It is not diabolical to suggest that women be more responsible and stop having so many children. Looking at the immigration which is mostly young men, it makes you wonder if any of these men are actually in relationships or acting as fathers. Women should not be having relationships with low quality men. There is no excuse for it.

    The point being though that there are too many ofthem and it is not sustainable. The mood in Europe now is that Europeans have had enough of unskilled young men flooding their countries. There are too many of them simply because of the excessive birth rates. Africa has done it to itself.

    A man cannot give birth but a woman chooses to get pregnant and chooses to keep the baby. She controls the situation. It shouldn't be easy to knock someone up. It's not classy. If she does this again and again then you have to question her behavior. It's a given that all too many men are rascals. There should be no child unless there are resources, commitment, and love.

    Unfortunately there seems to be very little thinking going on whence the population problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    It is not diabolical to suggest that women be more responsible and stop having so many children.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Looking at the immigration which is mostly young men, it makes you wonder if any of these men are actually in relationships or acting as fathers. Women should not be having relationships with low quality men. There is no excuse for it.
    This bit is diabolical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    A man cannot give birth but a woman chooses to get pregnant and chooses to keep the baby. She controls the situation. It shouldn't be easy to knock someone up. It's not classy. If she does this again and again then you have to question her behavior. It's a given that all too many men are rascals.
    And this bit.

    You're essentially blaming the victim. Everything is the womans fault, even the terrible behaviour of the man, who bears no responsibility for the children, mother, contraception, etc.

    The lives/opportunities of young mothers from the west and poor countries are totally different, you don't even make the distinction, they're all just terrible women making selfish evil choices.

    You identify thousands of young possible squrters leaving their families to find a better life yet blame the women from those countries for not having the education, means and forward planning to comfortably raise the offspring. Most of these people are polluted with religion, the woman has no rights or choice in her partner, raising children is their job, they rely on the man as the bread winner, contraception/abortion is not even an option.
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    Generally getting pregnant is not about being a victim. If you are suggesting otherwise and that life for women really is this bad then where is the controversy over what Trump said? I am saying you cannot have it both ways. I am also saying why are you letting all these men into Europe too?

    Certainly in the West getting pregnant is a personal choice and the woman is generally not a victim. She chooses her partner and lets things happen. It is a choice to get pregnant to men who are not suitable father material. The state will let them jump the line to housing and benefits. They are rewarded.

    At the end of the day you typically choose who you sleep with and with and can choose if you get pregnant. We see in Asia people have less children. Africa for various reasons refuses to exercise the same vigilance and it is even more cruel considering there are no resources. It is selfish. To be fair I will say the men are being selfish too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Generally getting pregnant is not about being a victim. If you are suggesting otherwise and that life for women really is this bad then where is the controversy over what Trump said? I am saying you cannot have it both ways. I am also saying why are you letting all these men into Europe too?

    Certainly in the West getting pregnant is a personal choice and the woman is generally not a victim. She chooses her partner and lets things happen. It is a choice to get pregnant to men who are not suitable father material. The state will let them jump the line to housing and benefits. They are rewarded.

    At the end of the day you typically choose who you sleep with and with and can choose if you get pregnant. We see in Asia people have less children. Africa for various reasons refuses to exercise the same vigilance and it is even more cruel considering there are no resources. It is selfish. To be fair I will say the men are being selfish too.
    I thought your dad was a rotter that abandoned you and your mum (maybe I have you mixed up with someone else)? So you believe it was your mothers fault that he left? That she should have picked a better partner?

    Millions and millions of pregnancies are an accident. It is very naive to think any of us were planned, whether we come from a family unit or not. The choice isn't always the mothers whether or not they have/keep a child, a whole load of factors determine that. However, invariably mothers are left with the child when relationships breakdown whether they like it or not, they get a far rawer deal than men.

    China's 30-40 year one child policy has only just been eased.

    On the whole, I agree with you, it's a disgrace that people have kids that they can't adequately support/raise. Thickos raising thickos. However, the mother is not solely to blame, that's all i'm saying.
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    Beans I don't see anything wrong with letting me near your family. You just told me that I would not say it to their faces. But now you have retracted that statement and replaced it with an even sillier one. I'm just waiting for an even sillier one from you after that I know you can outdo yourself beans I just know it

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    In terms of my own situation I see two parents that were completely incompatible from the start. A prime example of two people that collectively managed to cause a lot of trauma all because they failed to consider the impact that their own behavior would have on children. If anything my understanding of that situation only confirms my belief that people without means or any decent reason to be having children should not be having them. It is selfish and inconsiderate not just on the kids but the state who ends up having to subsidize the lifestyle. My own beliefs are that everything should be done to minimise any of that ever happening.

    I am cool with people having children who are genuinely devoted to one another and children who are raised with security, love and confidence. However, we all know that this is becoming less and less common and that to me is a tragedy. To have 6 kids and have them trying to escape to welfare states. That is an absolute disaster and it makes me angry. How dare those women and yes, how dare those men do that! It boggles my mind and instead of saying 'How about we stop this nonsense!' you have lefties saying it is me who is selfish. I am not selfish. I consider my impact to the extreme. I don't demand that people be like me. I do demand that nobody have children unless they have thought about it properly and will never abandon them or put them through things that never needed to happen.

    The notion that it is an accident is all too true, but not a good enough excuse. That is why as an adult I have consciously rejected the path my parents took and refuse to ever countenance the possibilities of 'a mistake'. A child should never be a mistake! It is the most serious thing you can ever do in life. To bring a life into this world. A being who has no say in the laws, the methods of parenting, the trauma that will inevitably result from poverty, constant moving, the lack of father figures etc. To pass it off as an accident is just wrong. It isn't difficult to avoid accidents.

    In the sense that women seem to be attracted to men who won't respect them. That to me is problematic and their fault. Not all men are scallywags, but many are and a woman typically has the say in who she dates. If you take the time to court someone, to build a relationship, over time you know who they are. If you get pregnant in a month, well that is terrible judgement.

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    I agree with Miles 100% that the woman has far more responsibility as it is she who has to carry the child for 9 months and then nurse the child and most likely raise the child so therefore it is she who has four more responsibility to her own self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I agree with Miles 100% that the woman has far more responsibility as it is she who has to carry the child for 9 months and then nurse the child and most likely raise the child so therefore it is she who has four more responsibility to her own self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    In terms of my own situation I see two parents that were completely incompatible from the start. A prime example of two people that collectively managed to cause a lot of trauma all because they failed to consider the impact that their own behavior would have on children. If anything my understanding of that situation only confirms my belief that people without means or any decent reason to be having children should not be having them. It is selfish and inconsiderate not just on the kids but the state who ends up having to subsidize the lifestyle. My own beliefs are that everything should be done to minimise any of that ever happening.

    I am cool with people having children who are genuinely devoted to one another and children who are raised with security, love and confidence. However, we all know that this is becoming less and less common and that to me is a tragedy. To have 6 kids and have them trying to escape to welfare states. That is an absolute disaster and it makes me angry. How dare those women and yes, how dare those men do that! It boggles my mind and instead of saying 'How about we stop this nonsense!' you have lefties saying it is me who is selfish. I am not selfish. I consider my impact to the extreme. I don't demand that people be like me. I do demand that nobody have children unless they have thought about it properly and will never abandon them or put them through things that never needed to happen.

    The notion that it is an accident is all too true, but not a good enough excuse. That is why as an adult I have consciously rejected the path my parents took and refuse to ever countenance the possibilities of 'a mistake'. A child should never be a mistake! It is the most serious thing you can ever do in life. To bring a life into this world. A being who has no say in the laws, the methods of parenting, the trauma that will inevitably result from poverty, constant moving, the lack of father figures etc. To pass it off as an accident is just wrong. It isn't difficult to avoid accidents.

    In the sense that women seem to be attracted to men who won't respect them. That to me is problematic and their fault. Not all men are scallywags, but many are and a woman typically has the say in who she dates. If you take the time to court someone, to build a relationship, over time you know who they are. If you get pregnant in a month, well that is terrible judgement.
    Is this an argument for your own nonexistent existence

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    On the night of miles' @Gandalf departure from the United Kingdom which he is being hit with mixed emotions and mixed feelings after having not been for so long and he has really just tucked into some nice cozy newspapers and playing snooker and even went to the corner store few times even though the lady looked at him like he was an alien and even though he tried to speak Korean to a few Koreans who probably are British at this point he is about to head back for that Korean New Year's and he has to get up at 2 a.m. to cook some mooncakes and s*** like your wife has to cook @walrus

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    In terms of my own situation I see two parents that were completely incompatible from the start. A prime example of two people that collectively managed to cause a lot of trauma all because they failed to consider the impact that their own behavior would have on children. If anything my understanding of that situation only confirms my belief that people without means or any decent reason to be having children should not be having them. It is selfish and inconsiderate not just on the kids but the state who ends up having to subsidize the lifestyle. My own beliefs are that everything should be done to minimise any of that ever happening.

    I am cool with people having children who are genuinely devoted to one another and children who are raised with security, love and confidence. However, we all know that this is becoming less and less common and that to me is a tragedy. To have 6 kids and have them trying to escape to welfare states. That is an absolute disaster and it makes me angry. How dare those women and yes, how dare those men do that! It boggles my mind and instead of saying 'How about we stop this nonsense!' you have lefties saying it is me who is selfish. I am not selfish. I consider my impact to the extreme. I don't demand that people be like me. I do demand that nobody have children unless they have thought about it properly and will never abandon them or put them through things that never needed to happen.

    The notion that it is an accident is all too true, but not a good enough excuse. That is why as an adult I have consciously rejected the path my parents took and refuse to ever countenance the possibilities of 'a mistake'. A child should never be a mistake! It is the most serious thing you can ever do in life. To bring a life into this world. A being who has no say in the laws, the methods of parenting, the trauma that will inevitably result from poverty, constant moving, the lack of father figures etc. To pass it off as an accident is just wrong. It isn't difficult to avoid accidents.

    In the sense that women seem to be attracted to men who won't respect them. That to me is problematic and their fault. Not all men are scallywags, but many are and a woman typically has the say in who she dates. If you take the time to court someone, to build a relationship, over time you know who they are. If you get pregnant in a month, well that is terrible judgement.
    Is this an argument for your own nonexistent existence
    Oh absolutely. We are all nothing pretending to be something only to return to nothing. Gotta get over it.

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