I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes

[Master]

It take 2 people to have a baby and yet you emphasise that the woman needs to stop having babies.Those Italian citizens, because that it what they are as they were born in the country, will grow up and contribute to the country. They will become labourers, plumbers, drivers, doctors, nurses, cooks, lawyers and business people who will pay taxes and support the dependant population in the country.

Most will claim benefits as they cant afford to keep the children they have , others will work minimum wage so never pay tax , their children will get free healthcare / education / etc. no real benefit to the indigenous stock.Taking in a qualified doctor is very different from a peasant with nothing , although id prefer to train doctors rather than take that option.Thats what happens when you let people from 3 world countries into a stable society , thankyou liberal ponces.

Germany has a aging population which is one of the reasons they took mass migration.

Whilst the children get educated they will want to secure good jobs after and do better than their parents.

You can see the next generation coming through, look at the German or Italy with boxers and footballers with Turkish and African backgrounds. France and England have longer history of it.

[Gandalf]

It take 2 people to have a baby and yet you emphasise that the woman needs to stop having babies.Those Italian citizens, because that it what they are as they were born in the country, will grow up and contribute to the country. They will become labourers, plumbers, drivers, doctors, nurses, cooks, lawyers and business people who will pay taxes and support the dependant population in the country.

Most will claim benefits as they cant afford to keep the children they have , others will work minimum wage so never pay tax , their children will get free healthcare / education / etc. no real benefit to the indigenous stock.Taking in a qualified doctor is very different from a peasant with nothing , although id prefer to train doctors rather than take that option.Thats what happens when you let people from 3 world countries into a stable society , thankyou liberal ponces.

Germany has a aging population which is one of the reasons they took mass migration.

Whilst the children get educated they will want to secure good jobs after and do better than their parents.

You can see the next generation coming through, look at the German or Italy with boxers and footballers with Turkish and African backgrounds. France and England have longer history of it.

Good luck with that. I am sure that these chaps are all future doctors and teachers.

[Master]

Holy cow! You have just taken the place of Brock well done.

[Gandalf]

Not an argument.

[Gandalf]

I have just watched another video and they are saying that the women are treated like crap too, so it goes back to my original argument. If there are women being treated so badly, then why are we letting in hordes of men who have no respect for anybody? They are obviously not from good countries and they will try to spread their bad influences like in Sweden which has 50 no go zones. This would indicate that Trump's words might well have validity and as usual the left has basically gone 'How dare he.....racist pig' etc even though most would actually agree that these are not such nice places to be living in.

For me, I think women, certainly in the West are all about choice and they generally make terrible decisions. In Africa it is less cut and dry and it seems rather horrible if women either cannot stop having so many children because of ome cultural conditioning or are forced to have so many children. Either way the fallout of that is toxic and devastating as seen by Sweden which has imploded and constantly being short of food because there are too many people.

[Master]

Not an argument.

Scaremongering and sensationalism.

[Gandalf]

Not an argument.

Scaremongering and sensationalism.

Watch this and tell me there is nothing to worry about.

[brocktonblockbust]

Not an argument.

Exactly. Whenever you nail one of them real good with a perfectly logical argument there then deflect to some kind of a subjective judgmental personal assessment of you

[Gandalf]

Exactly, it always gets spun into you don't like black people or women or whatever it is. It misses the point which is mostly about the terrible impact having too many children has on not only Africa, but countries that are then overburdened with economic migrants who don't really have any skills.

[Beanz]

What a pair of cowardly cunts. Posting a video from the Nordic Defense league now in which the comments are full of things like "We need another Hitler..lets start building the ovens"

That is not an argument, that is you posting propaganda to suit your own agenda. This is from a guy who tells us an article about a women engaging in bestiality is his kind of article and somebody who is still insisiting on writing off an entire continent. Are you both suggesting that X is full of shit and that all of Africa can be written off?

[Dark Lord Al]

It take 2 people to have a baby and yet you emphasise that the woman needs to stop having babies.Those Italian citizens, because that it what they are as they were born in the country, will grow up and contribute to the country. They will become labourers, plumbers, drivers, doctors, nurses, cooks, lawyers and business people who will pay taxes and support the dependant population in the country.

Most will claim benefits as they cant afford to keep the children they have , others will work minimum wage so never pay tax , their children will get free healthcare / education / etc. no real benefit to the indigenous stock.Taking in a qualified doctor is very different from a peasant with nothing , although id prefer to train doctors rather than take that option.Thats what happens when you let people from 3 world countries into a stable society , thankyou liberal ponces.

Germany has a aging population which is one of the reasons they took mass migration.

Whilst the children get educated they will want to secure good jobs after and do better than their parents.

You can see the next generation coming through, look at the German or Italy with boxers and footballers with Turkish and African backgrounds. France and England have longer history of it.

Germany took in mass migrants from 3 world countries because an inept idiotic insane Politician who for her own gains allowed it to happen . It is apparent Merkel was trying to write her name into the history books as a great leader with a Nobel peace prize.
Her name will indeed be written into history as a bloody minded fool , with only thinks of herself.

[Gandalf]

Okay then Beanz. How about a world where every single woman has 6 children? It would lead to environmental, economic, and social disaster within a couple of generations. We cannot simply keep doubling the human population every 10 years. Being nice and encouraging it does not help anyone. Instead all I am saying is that it would be a good idea for women not to have so many children. It would be good for the planet, good for society, and most of all better for those women who could spend time learning and working. Africa has problems, and like Attenborough says, the constant famines are really an issue of overpopulation. So is the migrant crisis. The UK would be a mess if the population doubled to 120 million. Uncontrolled population expansionism is a disaster no matter where it is. You cannot feed or house everyone when the population doubles every decade. Systems eventually break down as does society.

[Gandalf]

[Beanz]

Okay then Beanz. How about a world where every single woman has 6 children? It would lead to environmental, economic, and social disaster within a couple of generations. We cannot simply keep doubling the human population every 10 years. Being nice and encouraging it does not help anyone. Instead all I am saying is that it would be a good idea for women not to have so many children. It would be good for the planet, good for society, and most of all better for those women who could spend time learning and working. Africa has problems, and like Attenborough says, the constant famines are really an issue of overpopulation. So is the migrant crisis. The UK would be a mess if the population doubled to 120 million. Uncontrolled population expansionism is a disaster no matter where it is. You cannot feed or house everyone when the population doubles every decade. Systems eventually break down as does society.

We don't live in a world where every single woman has six children though do we? far from it. You are talking to someone from a very large family with children and grandchildren of his own, Both Jews and Gypsies have big families but I don't use that to try and suggest you should be like me or the cultures that i am from. Yet you are taking about Africa like it is all sub-Saharan Africa and ignoring first hand experience from X that proves how ignorant Trump and his idiot sheeple blow hard lackey Brockton are. Afghanistan, Congo, East Timor, Niger etc still have women having too many babies because ironically , war, famine and disasters keep fertility rates high. When parents are more confident they will survive they have less of them. Other countries in Africa are as different as those in Europe. Not only that but in countries like Ethiopia the fertility rates are going up in some parts and down in others. Still though in Ethiopia in the capital the average is less than two children per women and the rate is going down but in the mountains , nomads still have larger families, even there though it has fallen form 7 to 4.

This idiotic insistence that everything can be summed up in a twatty soundbite and that anyone who does not subscribe to it is PC is fucking mental. You end up with stupid people with big mouths dominating the discourse because anything they don't like they just ignore and put it down to fake news, mental illness or PC ponces.
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[Gandalf]

It is a matter of species survival that people have smaller families and stop having so many children. That it hurts someone's feelings because they come from a big family is neither here nor there. It is just reality and there is nothing mental about it. The facts are that many African countries have a birth rate of 5 children per woman and up and that is ecologically and morally very dangerous. There is no way to sugar coat that fact and to continue behaving like that will mean their children and their children in turn will have a worse standard of living. It will also lead to more and more problems in Europe and likely see a massive shift to the right. I don't particularly want to see that happen. If one really loves the planet and wants to make a difference all they need to do is stop having so many children. It is that simple. 4 children is still completely unsustainable. Mathematically 1 is decent, 2 pushing it and 3 and beyond a bit selfish. We have all the knowledge and information we need. We know that to keep pushing it like this the consequences will be dire.