Are we being to harsh on Thurman?

[Spicoli]

Clearly it the bigger picture and fan anticipation he is being lapped by Spence right now, regardless of the excuses. He needs to pull Uncle Haymon aside and demand to run with the pack, not just watch from the safety of his backyard. Another win over Porter does zippo for him except satisfy the sanctioning bodies and Haymon.

Thurman is being unfair to Thurman.

[Ron Swanson]

Clearly it the bigger picture and fan anticipation he is being lapped by Spence right now, regardless of the excuses. He needs to pull Uncle Haymon aside and demand to run with the pack, not just watch from the safety of his backyard. Another win over Porter does zippo for him except satisfy the sanctioning bodies and Haymon.

Thurman is being unfair to Thurman.

To expand on this, the whole division deserves hell. Except Spence because he just goes down the list want to fight, no, okay, do you want to fight, no, okay. Even Crawford, we have no reason to doubt him up to this point but after he picks up his belt if he looks at Jessie Vargas or someone of the ilk he will deserve to be questioned too. Until anyone gets in the ring with Spence they deserve to be questioned. This division has been hell since MayPac took it over. Same problem all these years,,,,, just fight!

[Alpha]

I don't think we are, the thing is he is not even considering Spence for the end of this year. He gets a tune up; fine I think everyone grants him that. A unification will almost always trump a mando so there's no reason for Porter/ Garcia to get in the way of a Spence fight. If Thurman does fight Porter after the tune up I'll be backing Porter to win, the 1st fight was razor thin and there's no guarantee Thurman wins a return. It'll serve Keith right watching a huge payday disappear.

Do we give Crawford a pass if he fights Pac after Horn?

Matthysse is also skulking with a 'belt'

[Ron Swanson]

I don't think we are, the thing is he is not even considering Spence for the end of this year. He gets a tune up; fine I think everyone grants him that. A unification will almost always trump a mando so there's no reason for Porter/ Garcia to get in the way of a Spence fight. If Thurman does fight Porter after the tune up I'll be backing Porter to win, the 1st fight was razor thin and there's no guarantee Thurman wins a return. It'll serve Keith right watching a huge payday disappear.

Do we give Crawford a pass if he fights Pac after Horn?

Matthysse is also skulking with a 'belt'

Everyone gets a pass for fighting Pac, just too much money. But I heard Pac is being fed to Loma later this year(November). I don't think anyone believes Pac can hang with Crawford but they can trick the people on Pac/Loma

[imp]

Crawford/Loma is not good business for Top rank.

After Loma takes another loss the aura will drop around him again.

Pac/Loma is perfect because if Loma schools Pac it will be like Pac/Oscar again and everyone will wet their pants for their new P4P star.

Either way, Bob wins.

[powerpuncher]

Crawford fighting Horn is 100% fine since it gets him a belt and it’s his first fight at welter. I think it’s smart to fight Pacquiao because it makes him a known boxer even among casual fans. That will generate more interest in him. Now, if after that he doesn’t fight any top guy at welter (barring they are ducking him which isn’t a stretch), I won’t give him a pass either.

[Alpha]

Pac/ Loma makes more sense for both guys but Pac is still highly rated in the WBO 147 ratings so the Crawford fight is there at a stretch. Who does Bob want to make the bigger star? Bud or Loma?

Loma has Berchelt, Linares, Mikey before getting to 140, Crawford needs to hope Bob can get him in with the other big names at Welter.