Herol Graham

[Dark Lord Al]

Graham had an ugly style , talked like a bummer , and looked like a ponce . He just was never going to be big outside of Britain , however he was a hell of a fighter.

[Dark Lord Al]

As for his Bald Eminence he didn't duck anyone.

[Master]

As for his Bald Eminence he didn't duck anyone.

Hagler ducked Herol Graham.

[X]

I'd be astonished if Hagler ducked Herol Graham because he thought he might lose. Hagler was a genuine monster at middleweight.

I could perfectly accept that he didn't want to fight Graham because it would be a low low earner for him. Herol was a fantastic boxer, but he wasn't what Americans liked to watch at the time (style wise) and he wasn't well known at all outside the UK. Surely it would be normal for an established undisputed champion to want to take fights that would be good earners and catch the public attention as well as being legacy building?

I thought Herol was a good good fighter, but I can't see how he would have beaten Hagler, especially in the US.

[Master]

If Leonard did it then Herol Graham would have done it with ease.

Now stop arguing with me.

[Dark Lord Al]

If Leonard did it then Herol Graham would have done it with ease.

Now stop arguing with me.

Going off your logic - If Sambu Kalambay can take Grahams unbeaten record then Hagler gets life for murder.

[Master]

If Leonard did it then Herol Graham would have done it with ease.

Now stop arguing with me.

Going off your logic - If Sambu Kalambay can take Grahams unbeaten record then Hagler gets life for murder.

Herol Graham did not have Brendon Ingle in his corner and was not the same fighter. Once he was back with Ingle he was complete again.

Remember Hagler was old when Leonard beat him.