Mike Tyson vs Oliver McCall ***SPARRING*** Sept. 1987

[Ron Swanson]

Primo, this is probably the clip you want, don't know which bum he is toying with

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dvoIlc5nYNE

Thanks Ron, that clip was in the one i sent you. I don’t think that’s the one I’m thinking of, but my mind might be playing tricks with me!
In my head, I can see a really tall Latino or Mexican guy , but almost identical to that finish. I must be getting old!
With regards to your reply , that was 15 seconds of video against the loads I sent with a contrary outcome.
And as for the quality of opponent, fair enough, but my point wasn’t about the opposition, it was about his head movement.
All I did was searched for “ Mike Tyson head movement “ .loads came up including videos of Cus D’Amato continually commenting on it. When I changed the search to “Mike Tyson shit head movement,” nada!

I stand by how I see it. When he's in charge his movement is great. In training it's phenomenal. But when someone hits him it stops. It falls right in line with his psyche, when he meets resistance he looks for a way out. All those times in the mat and never once got up to win.

Mike's talent was something to behold, his fighting was less.(still a great)I see his head movement like Pacs (also a great)foot movement, amazingly fast but not close to as good as people say.

[Primo Carnera]

Primo, this is probably the clip you want, don't know which bum he is toying with

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dvoIlc5nYNE

Thanks Ron, that clip was in the one i sent you. I don’t think that’s the one I’m thinking of, but my mind might be playing tricks with me!
In my head, I can see a really tall Latino or Mexican guy , but almost identical to that finish. I must be getting old!
With regards to your reply , that was 15 seconds of video against the loads I sent with a contrary outcome.
And as for the quality of opponent, fair enough, but my point wasn’t about the opposition, it was about his head movement.
All I did was searched for “ Mike Tyson head movement “ .loads came up including videos of Cus D’Amato continually commenting on it. When I changed the search to “Mike Tyson shit head movement,” nada!

I stand by how I see it. When he's in charge his movement is great. In training it's phenomenal. But when someone hits him it stops. It falls right in line with his psyche, when he meets resistance he looks for a way out. All those times in the mat and never once got up to win.

Mike's talent was something to behold, his fighting was less.(still a great)I see his head movement like Pacs (also a great)foot movement, amazingly fast but not close to as good as people say.

We'll have to agree to disagree................but you are wrong!

[Master]

That is the eternal debate.

I maintain that the Tyson that won the title in 1986 and made about 9 defences would have beaten Holyfield, Buster, Bowe and Lennox at their best.

[brocktonblockbust]

That is the eternal debate.

I maintain that the Tyson that won the title in 1986 and made about 9 defences would have beaten Holyfield, Buster, Bowe and Lennox at their best.

I agree with that. During that year 1986 and I guess I have to stay up until he beat Michael Spinks in 1988 I believe the guy was untouchable. He just had too much more momentum than anybody else

I would love to see 1965 Cassius Clay versus 1986 Mike Tyson