Does Wilder have more Charisma than AJ?

[holmcall]

Depends. Wilder on one hand is rowdy and center of attention when he enters a room. The man has a serious look at me hang up and compensates for lack of substance by yelling loudest and living in the literal ring moment. He's all about the instant and saying exactly what enters his head. Fans like a guy who swings for the fences, appears very vulnerable while doing so, and has a 'fire' burning 24-7 and doesn't care what people think. Of course lots of guys do that..the cocky brash A holes. That can make Wilder one you just want to see get his comeuppance and pay a price for careless style. But I think there is a simplicity about Wilder and not the over the top 'let me light my cigar with a $100 bill' and claim I'm the best ever. AJ seems pretty rehearsed and looks to please everyone. He has the polish and professionalism. He's the one you invite over for Holiday dinner with the extended family, Wilders the guy who pulls into the driveway hanging out the window shouting 'what up Moms and Pops lemme get a plate'.

Wilde's imperfections are what give him his charisma

[Spicoli]

Depends. Wilder on one hand is rowdy and center of attention when he enters a room. The man has a serious look at me hang up and compensates for lack of substance by yelling loudest and living in the literal ring moment. He's all about the instant and saying exactly what enters his head. Fans like a guy who swings for the fences, appears very vulnerable while doing so, and has a 'fire' burning 24-7 and doesn't care what people think. Of course lots of guys do that..the cocky brash A holes. That can make Wilder one you just want to see get his comeuppance and pay a price for careless style. But I think there is a simplicity about Wilder and not the over the top 'let me light my cigar with a $100 bill' and claim I'm the best ever. AJ seems pretty rehearsed and looks to please everyone. He has the polish and professionalism. He's the one you invite over for Holiday dinner with the extended family, Wilders the guy who pulls into the driveway hanging out the window shouting 'what up Moms and Pops lemme get a plate'.

Wilde's imperfections are what give him his charisma

Yes. Much shorter version.

[Master]

I find Wilder boorish and tedious on twitter trying to shadow box in his flat late at night or beating up a mentally challenged fanboy in sparring.

AJ is getting more "preachy" with his sermon after fight interviews but he is better to listen too.

[Memphis]

Depends how you define charisma. Both try a little too hard for me. In a strange way I think both have a public facing persona that would possibly suit the other one better.

[Freedom]

Joshua has more charisma.

He has good manners and comes across as sincere, intelligent, and honorable.

Wilder comes across as stupid, childlike and lacking in self-control, the kind of person who soils himself regularly.

[X]

The deluded internet warrior fanboy that Wilder invited into the ring was a previous poster on here, I believe.

As I recall, he was a trolling nutjob with little grip on reality.

I was delighted when someone as pathetic and annoying, yet who still felt they were important and special enough to be listened to ..... got their face smashed in by a genuine 6'7" world class heavyweight.

The problem with the internet is that there is no consequence to what you say. This might even relate to many different threads on here too

There should be consequence to what people say on the internet, just as there are in real life. We would have less hate speech, rumour mongering, fake news and incitement if there was a Deontay Wilder in every PC and tablet in the world.

If some idiot was grooming someone on the net, downloading jihadi material, propagating hatered and strife .... a really long arm with a glove on the end of it would leap out of their screen and blitz them out cold with one punch. Their speakers would then scream "BOOMMMBZSQUAAAAAD" at them for good measure.

[Ron Swanson]

People see charisma differently. Most find Spence boring speaking very plain and honest. I find him to be easily the most charismatic fighter going.

I like AJ as a fighter but I find him very fake so no, his personality does not inspire devotion from me. Wilder, I don't know what to make of that guy. His words don't meet with his career so it comes off fake too.

They aren't Keith Thurman fake but they're fake and I don't follow that. Let's just see them fight.

[TitoFan]

Tough crowd in here.

All I see are two highly skilled professional athletes at the top of their game, both with explosive potential inside the ring, and totally different personalities out of it. Wilder's been fed a bunch of nobodies to fatten up his record... but slowly he's getting credible victories under his belt, and making it harder and harder for the haters to keep hating. I've been a long time skeptic... but I applaud some of his recent fights. Ortiz may have been old and on the downside of his career... but he was still a dangerous, avoided fighter. Wilder took him on and knocked him out. AJ brought out the offense in Wlad, something that hadn't been done in decades. The best HW title fight in many many moons, IMO. For that I thank both of them. They seem to be on a collision course. Let's look forward to that. As far as charisma, at this point I don't give a rat's ass. Wilder is exuberant.... we should see as much in some of the jaded professional athletes nowadays. He's confident and he's proud. Hardly damning qualities for a heavyweight boxing champion. AJ is less outgoing, but seems like a truly nice guy. So I like both of them. Also, it's downright refreshing to see two heavyweight fighters who keep in excellent shape, and who can talk in a manner that can be understood by a normal human being, something that I remember guys like Toney and Bowe totally lacked.

I'm back to liking the heavyweight division again.

[Gandalf]

James Toney has more charisma than both of them combined and is probably heavier too. He would beat them both on the same night in his Rahman prime.

[holmcall]

Tough crowd in here.

All I see are two highly skilled professional athletes at the top of their game, both with explosive potential inside the ring, and totally different personalities out of it. Wilder's been fed a bunch of nobodies to fatten up his record... but slowly he's getting credible victories under his belt, and making it harder and harder for the haters to keep hating. I've been a long time skeptic... but I applaud some of his recent fights. Ortiz may have been old and on the downside of his career... but he was still a dangerous, avoided fighter. Wilder took him on and knocked him out. AJ brought out the offense in Wlad, something that hadn't been done in decades. The best HW title fight in many many moons, IMO. For that I thank both of them. They seem to be on a collision course. Let's look forward to that. As far as charisma, at this point I don't give a rat's ass. Wilder is exuberant.... we should see as much in some of the jaded professional athletes nowadays. He's confident and he's proud. Hardly damning qualities for a heavyweight boxing champion. AJ is less outgoing, but seems like a truly nice guy. So I like both of them. Also, it's downright refreshing to see two heavyweight fighters who keep in excellent shape, and who can talk in a manner that can be understood by a normal human being, something that I remember guys like Toney and Bowe totally lacked.

I'm back to liking the heavyweight division again.

Fantastical post!! shall "steal" with your permission and a couple of quotation marks.

[Batman]

The deluded internet warrior fanboy that Wilder invited into the ring was a previous poster on here, I believe.

As I recall, he was a trolling nutjob with little grip on reality.

I was delighted when someone as pathetic and annoying, yet who still felt they were important and special enough to be listened to ..... got their face smashed in by a genuine 6'7" world class heavyweight.

That was Charlie Zelanof the true P4P GOAT

He goes around gyms asking random people with no experience to spar with him then sucker punches them before they are ready, he goes home creates an elaborate back story for the (ex navy seal, former MMA champion, stuff like that) then he posts it on the internet and claims it's another win, I think he is something like 230-0 at the moment.

Have a look at some of the videos on YouTube, the bloke is fucking infuriating, he must have some sort of mental issues.

[Master]

The deluded internet warrior fanboy that Wilder invited into the ring was a previous poster on here, I believe.

As I recall, he was a trolling nutjob with little grip on reality.

I was delighted when someone as pathetic and annoying, yet who still felt they were important and special enough to be listened to ..... got their face smashed in by a genuine 6'7" world class heavyweight.

That was Charlie Zelanof the true P4P GOAT

He goes around gyms asking random people with no experience to spar with him then sucker punches them before they are ready, he goes home creates an elaborate back story for the (ex navy seal, former MMA champion, stuff like that) then he posts it on the internet and claims it's another win, I think he is something like 230-0 at the moment.

Have a look at some of the videos on YouTube, the bloke is fucking infuriating, he must have some sort of mental issues.

I believe he posted here quite regularly but it was before my time.

[Violent Demise]

Joshua is boring personality wise. Wilder tries real hard not to be boring. I don't really care much what either one has to say. But I do wanna see them fight

[TitoFan]

Charisma obviously won't win you fights, but honestly I don't get what the big deal is with Joshua being boring or not having charisma.
Here he is doing his best Wilder impression (sucks... but "A" on effort) and giving an all-an-all good interview.


http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...der-impression


Personally, I think people are just too hard to please. Too loud and brash... you get criticized. Too soft-spoken... you're boring.
Like I said before, tough crowd.

[Alpha]

I get what Tito is saying and agree fans can be fickle. I for the record have never once said AJ is boring. I prefer a fighter to be humble and would rather judge them on what they do inside the ring. Obviously that doesn't always translate to ratings and $$$. A enjoy a bit of smack talk or showboating at times (a bolo punch or Ali shuffle is generally entertaining) but only if done against a quality opponent. Some guys just connect with the public, Naz, Ali etc, sometimes it's love or hate, people want to see you win or get beat. There's no real recipe for successfully crossing over, every mainstream star has done it slightly different.