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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko v Jorge Linares on May 12th NYC

    There are also certain other factors that can come into play, sometimes a guy stays in the ams longer and age dictates that he needs to be moved faster as well.

    If a guy has an extensive am background, he should be stepping up slightly each fight, not padding his record against his with losing records.
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    The thing is with Loma, he was given a title shot in his 2nd fight. Was he out classed ? No. With any of the opportunities he has had, has he been found out ? No.
    Then there’s the view that other fighters “deserved a shot” before him and had been waiting longer. Would any of them beat Loma? No.
    So there we have it.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko v Jorge Linares on May 12th NYC

    Yeah, and who knows how many other fighters were good enough to win a title in their 2nd pro fight before Loma.
    Loma is not god. He's an excellent fighter who was given his chance immediately, while past fighters have always had to earn their shot.
    I like career build up.
    For those who don't.... goody.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko v Jorge Linares on May 12th NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    The thing is with Loma, he was given a title shot in his 2nd fight. Was he out classed ? No. With any of the opportunities he has had, has he been found out ? No.
    Then there’s the view that other fighters “deserved a shot” before him and had been waiting longer. Would any of them beat Loma? No.
    So there we have it.
    He did lose that fight, he wasn't outclassed but he learned a heap from that fight. A fight or 2 against a top contender and he wins that fight easy.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko v Jorge Linares on May 12th NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    The thing is with Loma, he was given a title shot in his 2nd fight. Was he out classed ? No. With any of the opportunities he has had, has he been found out ? No.
    Then there’s the view that other fighters “deserved a shot” before him and had been waiting longer. Would any of them beat Loma? No.
    So there we have it.
    He did lose that fight, he wasn't outclassed but he learned a heap from that fight. A fight or 2 against a top contender and he wins that fight easy.
    Yes, he lost. His team over estimated, but he/they learnt and have gone on from strength to strength. I think in this day and age when we have everybody avoiding everybody else in order to maintain their legacy, this attitude should be applauded.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko v Jorge Linares on May 12th NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    The thing is with Loma, he was given a title shot in his 2nd fight. Was he out classed ? No. With any of the opportunities he has had, has he been found out ? No.
    Then there’s the view that other fighters “deserved a shot” before him and had been waiting longer. Would any of them beat Loma? No.
    So there we have it.
    He did lose that fight, he wasn't outclassed but he learned a heap from that fight. A fight or 2 against a top contender and he wins that fight easy.
    Yes, he lost. His team over estimated, but he/they learnt and have gone on from strength to strength. I think in this day and age when we have everybody avoiding everybody else in order to maintain their legacy, this attitude should be applauded.
    if you're good enough to mix it, mix it. I'm a Mix over Marinate type of guy.
    I agree which is why I enjoy so many of the lighter weight guys. But I don't really agree with jumping over the #1 guy or the mandatory just because your promoter can get you there. Fight and beat the #1 or mandatory in your 1st fight then by all means get a title shot in your 2nd fight. These days not many title shots a really earned anyway so I don't suppose it matters.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko v Jorge Linares on May 12th NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    The thing is with Loma, he was given a title shot in his 2nd fight. Was he out classed ? No. With any of the opportunities he has had, has he been found out ? No.
    Then there’s the view that other fighters “deserved a shot” before him and had been waiting longer. Would any of them beat Loma? No.
    So there we have it.
    He did lose that fight, he wasn't outclassed but he learned a heap from that fight. A fight or 2 against a top contender and he wins that fight easy.
    Yes, he lost. His team over estimated, but he/they learnt and have gone on from strength to strength. I think in this day and age when we have everybody avoiding everybody else in order to maintain their legacy, this attitude should be applauded.
    if you're good enough to mix it, mix it. I'm a Mix over Marinate type of guy.
    I agree which is why I enjoy so many of the lighter weight guys. But I don't really agree with jumping over the #1 guy or the mandatory just because your promoter can get you there. Fight and beat the #1 or mandatory in your 1st fight then by all means get a title shot in your 2nd fight. These days not many title shots a really earned anyway so I don't suppose it matters.
    I agree with every word of that . Politics wins every time unfortunately.
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