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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Can anyone enlighten me on why people think Fury toys with AJ or even Wilder? It's all I have heard since last night. Are people actually willing to ignore 90% of Fury's career where he has looked like another plodding heavyweight.

    As for AJ. He looked good last night. Boxed really well. Jabbed well. I actually think the referee hindered him by not letting him fight on the inside. He was letting some good shots go that missed by inches on the rare occasions he was able to throw.

    I still think Wilder troubles him although I think the fight would be much more edgy than people think. I don't think it would be exciting. It would be a lot of posturing before probably ending in explosive fashion. Not sure who I'd pick at this stage. AJ is the much better boxer and probably has similar power but Wilder is just so unpredictable in his movements and hits so hard that you're only a second away from disaster against him.


    Exactly!

    I've never understood the Fury bandwagon. Other than him being the one to end Wlad's long reign, he's a one-hit wonder. The Wlad fight was the worst HW title fight in the history of boxing... and he's done nothing since, but implode. Talks a lot, like Haye, but little else. Frankly, I think he gets soundly beaten by both AJ and Wilder. For those who don't remember, Wlad threw about 4 punches per round against Fury. Don't think that would happen against either of the current champs.

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Can anyone enlighten me on why people think Fury toys with AJ or even Wilder? It's all I have heard since last night. Are people actually willing to ignore 90% of Fury's career where he has looked like another plodding heavyweight.

    As for AJ. He looked good last night. Boxed really well. Jabbed well. I actually think the referee hindered him by not letting him fight on the inside. He was letting some good shots go that missed by inches on the rare occasions he was able to throw.

    I still think Wilder troubles him although I think the fight would be much more edgy than people think. I don't think it would be exciting. It would be a lot of posturing before probably ending in explosive fashion. Not sure who I'd pick at this stage. AJ is the much better boxer and probably has similar power but Wilder is just so unpredictable in his movements and hits so hard that you're only a second away from disaster against him.


    Exactly!

    I've never understood the Fury bandwagon. Other than him being the one to end Wlad's long reign, he's a one-hit wonder. The Wlad fight was the worst HW title fight in the history of boxing... and he's done nothing since, but implode. Talks a lot, like Haye, but little else. Frankly, I think he gets soundly beaten by both AJ and Wilder. For those who don't remember, Wlad threw about 4 punches per round against Fury. Don't think that would happen against either of the current champs.
    Fury became extremely overrated after the Wlad win. AJ is the same thing I believe. Wlad was never that great but just a product of an awful division and he was old in those fights.

    I don’t see why just this fight proves anything about AJ. He looked about as impressive in this fight as he has in the rest of his fights. He isn’t a comes forward fighter really. Sure, against stiffs he will, but he has shown that he is more of a boxer. I’m not saying AJ is awful but I’m not under some delusion that he is great by any means. Maybe he will eventually prove me wrong.

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    My mrs was moaning after the fight saying it was shite and that AJ wasn’t very good etc... she knows FA and only watches AJ because he’s “fit as fk and I bet he has a right big cock” etc ...

    i said after that was a quality performance from AJ, Joseph came to lose on points and not get knocked out, all AJ could do was box him and use his jab. As folks have mentioned he’s a different animal post Wlad. Almost like he wants to be the new WLad, establish his jab, not get drawn in, defend his belts at home and make it hard for people to come to the uk and beat him. I’m ok with that, good luck to him

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Quote Originally Posted by stinka View Post
    My mrs was moaning after the fight saying it was shite and that AJ wasn’t very good etc... she knows FA and only watches AJ because he’s “fit as fk and I bet he has a right big cock” etc ...

    i said after that was a quality performance from AJ, Joseph came to lose on points and not get knocked out, all AJ could do was box him and use his jab. As folks have mentioned he’s a different animal post Wlad. Almost like he wants to be the new WLad, establish his jab, not get drawn in, defend his belts at home and make it hard for people to come to the uk and beat him. I’m ok with that, good luck to him
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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did
    Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did
    Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.
    You get confused with being impressive and being boring. Fury was impressive beating Wlad because he just shut him out easily. Doesn’t matter that it was boring. AJ beating Parker wasn’t impressive. He won the fight but didn’t look great doing it.

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did
    Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.
    You get confused with being impressive and being boring. Fury was impressive beating Wlad because he just shut him out easily. Doesn’t matter that it was boring. AJ beating Parker wasn’t impressive. He won the fight but didn’t look great doing it.
    Never confused mate I have seen thousands of fights through the years stating facts some win ugly some impressive it's how it is,!!!! it was boring but AJ won it was not a classic.
    Many fights I have waited for inantisapasion that they were going to be classics but turned out to be stinkers or simply shit.
    Many fights I have watched thinking I have wasted 36 minutes of my life but I am a fan my son has boxed I help train him boxing is a great sport and I love it.
    Anybody who gets in that ring should have respect the average Joe would be on his back in a pool of blood and snot in under a minute.

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    AJ is not shit after 2 dull performances he was not pushed in those 2 fights and remember people he won,!!!! Fury did not look great beating Wlad but AJ did
    Nobody looks the dogs in every single fight chaps it's boxing end of the day the most important thing is too win Hopkins would win ugly with most of his fights but he was regarded as a master craftsman so just think long and hard.
    You get confused with being impressive and being boring. Fury was impressive beating Wlad because he just shut him out easily. Doesn’t matter that it was boring. AJ beating Parker wasn’t impressive. He won the fight but didn’t look great doing it.


    I'm going to slightly take issue with this, mainly because I don't cut Fury any slack. I think it was more a case of timid Wlad shutting himself down, than Fury doing any shutting down of his own. If anything, Fury did his work before the fight, when he obviously got into Wlad's head. Had Wlad come out against Fury like he did against AJ, it would've been a whoooooole different story. Think Cunningham knocking down Fury. A non-catatonic Wlad would've KFTO'ed him emphatically.

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    Exactly!

    I've never understood the Fury bandwagon. Other than him being the one to end Wlad's long reign, he's a one-hit wonder. The Wlad fight was the worst HW title fight in the history of boxing... and he's done nothing since, but implode. Talks a lot, like Haye, but little else. Frankly, I think he gets soundly beaten by both AJ and Wilder. For those who don't remember, Wlad threw about 4 punches per round against Fury. Don't think that would happen against either of the current champs.

    For me, a contender for worst heavyweight title fight in history would be AJ vs Charles Martin

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Does Wilder know how to maintain distance and move around?

    If he can do that and land keeping Joshuas chances of getting close to minimum, then has has a chance.

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
    Does Wilder know how to maintain distance and move around?

    If he can do that and land keeping Joshuas chances of getting close to minimum, then has has a chance.
    Wilder has the height and speed to outbox AJ for parts of the fight and certainly has the power to keep AJ respectful. Wilder has boxing skills to cause AJ problems but think as soon as AJ lands he will knock out Wilder cold.
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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    Won't say it was shat but he definitely acted disinterested or frustrated in spots. Fact that he couldn't keep Parker pinned and cut off a ring is a red flag concerning any Wilder fight, Parker wasn't exactly missing him by a mile when he decided to sit down and time off the jab. He didn't gas and owned late rounds with better jab down stretch but when on his heels and facing quick shifts he was lumbering a bit. If he has that approach with Wilder I can see him secondary in hand speed and somewhat predictable but for sure he has a deeper tool box, composure and sturdier foundation than the one trick pony that is Wilder. What makes Wilder dangerous as much as flawed is his recklessness and unpredictability. May have just been a case of the ol 'win today and look great tomorrow'. I saw it about 116-112 closer than the absurd 119-109 but clearly Joshua wide winner.

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    Default Re: 2 Shit performances from AJ..... I'd pick Wilder to smoke him

    You have a point about the unorthodox nature of Wilder, that would cause the conventional AJ a few sleepless nights.
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