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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    This is why I want Golovkin to fight, beat and destroy Canelo in September.
    I'd be shocked if Canelo..can't believe I'm even hypothesizing on his 'comeback'..but doubt he fights Golovkin right off vacation and knee surgery. He will probably fight Spike while Golovkin waits around growing older fresh off a who cares Vanes match. I don't want to see anyone miss a payday and fair play to Golovkin filling this botched date for that purpose but that's all it is. Cannot express enough how screwed over he is being here all while cinnamon beef eater will be welcomed back by network and promotion and re anointed. Basically just running a long con.

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    Basically the only fair thing to do would be to give GGG a certain percentage of Canelo’s purse when they fight. Or if Canelo fights somebody else, he owes GGG a percentage from that fight.

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    BS. If some twat messed up my career for a year, and being robbed can certainly be included in that messed up year, then I would not be interested in giving that person the time of day again. Sometimes in life there is something more than money and those are your principles. We are in an age where political systems and parties have no principles. GGG needs to kickstart the principle revolution. Fuck Canelo. Let him go and fight Adrien Broner. GGG is a man and should fight other men of standing who will not display a lack of honor or virtue. That Canelo is supported by a man who shoves dildo's up his bum is very, very telling. Stay away from them GGG, they are symbols are a wretched decadence that needs to be swept away.

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    His principles, like all fighters, probably lie with providing a living for his family not what a bunch of idealistic, greedy ghoulish fans demand.

    When Golovkin is lying in hospital getting stitched up, having his injuries tended and his brain analysed for damage you won't be there, like you're not for all the months and months of training and promotion work. You get to switch your stream off until next time, he doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    His principles, like all fighters, probably lie with providing a living for his family not what a bunch of idealistic, greedy ghoulish fans demand.

    When Golovkin is lying in hospital getting stitched up, having his injuries tended and his brain analysed for damage you won't be there, like you're not for all the months and months of training and promotion work. You get to switch your stream off until next time, he doesn't.
    But the fans are the consumers of the product (boxing) and we are what makes him money. So in that case he owes it to his fans (who make him rich) to make good fights.

    Sure, he can fight lesser competition and most of us will still watch him but it’s cheating his viewers who are paying to see him. So in reality he does owe us because we are the people that allow him to do this for a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    His principles, like all fighters, probably lie with providing a living for his family not what a bunch of idealistic, greedy ghoulish fans demand.

    When Golovkin is lying in hospital getting stitched up, having his injuries tended and his brain analysed for damage you won't be there, like you're not for all the months and months of training and promotion work. You get to switch your stream off until next time, he doesn't.
    But the fans are the consumers of the product (boxing) and we are what makes him money. So in that case he owes it to his fans (who make him rich) to make good fights.

    Sure, he can fight lesser competition and most of us will still watch him but it’s cheating his viewers who are paying to see him. So in reality he does owe us because we are the people that allow him to do this for a living.
    That is very true. I will give GGG a pass for this fight seeing how it was all messed up by Canelo, but my point stands, and that is that you should be a man of principle and move on from Canelo. I don't think anyone is denying that GGG needs to provide for his family, but it is a bit like the mafia saying 'I know you have never broken the law, but this one time take the money and put a bullet in him. Your family could use the money. Your principles are there'. I mean you could do that, but why would you reward a man that has attempted to endanger your life by cheating and wasted a year of your life? Boxing is dangerous enough already. Nah, there is plenty of money at the top and you shouldn't sell out. You are the champion of the world. Just make good fights and the money will come in. It's not as much as if you sell your soul to the devil, but there really is more to life than money.

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    The irony is that nearly all are advocating for Golovkin one way or another while recognizing he's been left to sweep up Canelos shit show. It's a no win situation as you're ready for steak but are served potted meat last minute. No one is talking about starving his family ffs and frankly to put it simply..he's better than this just left to be just snatching up coins. After all he WON the fight between the two, well save for the judges. And the only cheat here is Canelo. A bad match is a bad match regardless of the situation and they have collectively let him to dangle in that condition.

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    Default Re: GGG vs Vanes

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    His principles, like all fighters, probably lie with providing a living for his family not what a bunch of idealistic, greedy ghoulish fans demand.

    When Golovkin is lying in hospital getting stitched up, having his injuries tended and his brain analysed for damage you won't be there, like you're not for all the months and months of training and promotion work. You get to switch your stream off until next time, he doesn't.
    But the fans are the consumers of the product (boxing) and we are what makes him money. So in that case he owes it to his fans (who make him rich) to make good fights.

    Sure, he can fight lesser competition and most of us will still watch him but it’s cheating his viewers who are paying to see him. So in reality he does owe us because we are the people that allow him to do this for a living.
    Boxers don't owe the fans anything. You can vote with your wallet or your feet but they don't owe you or me owt. The irony is that Golovkin who has been a very active well traveled fighter who had to spend a long time flying under the radar despite a great amateur career, has just proved like Fenster has said, that many boxing fans still won't be happy, whatever he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    His principles, like all fighters, probably lie with providing a living for his family not what a bunch of idealistic, greedy ghoulish fans demand.

    When Golovkin is lying in hospital getting stitched up, having his injuries tended and his brain analysed for damage you won't be there, like you're not for all the months and months of training and promotion work. You get to switch your stream off until next time, he doesn't.
    But the fans are the consumers of the product (boxing) and we are what makes him money. So in that case he owes it to his fans (who make him rich) to make good fights.

    Sure, he can fight lesser competition and most of us will still watch him but it’s cheating his viewers who are paying to see him. So in reality he does owe us because we are the people that allow him to do this for a living.
    Boxers don't owe the fans anything. You can vote with your wallet or your feet but they don't owe you or me owt. The irony is that Golovkin who has been a very active well traveled fighter who had to spend a long time flying under the radar despite a great amateur career, has just proved like Fenster has said, that many boxing fans still won't be happy, whatever he does.
    It’s like when McDonald’s food gets lower quality over time. It’s so popular that people will eat there still but I hear tons of people say they don’t like it anymore and refuse to eat there. Does McDonald’s owe it’s customers anything? Not technically, but they should cater to the people who are buying their food. It would be weird if their food became really low quality and you said “well they used to be really good and I owe it to them to keep eating there even though the food is gross now.”

    I am a fan of GGG and have nothing against him. He has fought who he has needed to in the past but recently has let Canelo dictate his career because of the payday. It’s how business works I understand. It doesn’t make it alright though. It’s just unfortunate that a lot of consumers of the product are Mexicans that love lower quality boxing so will always buy Canelo fights.

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