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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Can anyone here remember any time in boxing history a promoter asks to see the money secured before even beginning negotiations?

    Ask yourself does he think Al doesn't have the money? Or is this more likely an absurd distraction?

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Can anyone here remember any time in boxing history a promoter asks to see the money secured before even beginning negotiations?

    Ask yourself does he think Al doesn't have the money? Or is this more likely an absurd distraction?

    no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Can anyone here remember any time in boxing history a promoter asks to see the money secured before even beginning negotiations?

    Ask yourself does he think Al doesn't have the money? Or is this more likely an absurd distraction?
    You want to try unraveling that? It is quite likely an absurd distraction by Wilder. It would follow form. This is a guy who has taken the most meandering path he could to avoid meeting any real challenges. You are turning this on it's head in order to preserve the notion that Joshua and Hearn who have invited Wilder's team to meet face to face, to negotiate etc are the ones avoiding Wilder.

    Can you remember a time in boxing history when serious offers and negotiations were carried out by suggesting 24hr deadlines without any mention of details? 24hr deadlines when planned meetings with the camp you want to fight were cancelled? Does that sound like the actions of someone eager to get a fight made?

    DO you really think Hearn is going to blow a chance to make money and history for himself as a promoter by dodging a unification bout of this magnitude.

    We will know in a few hours but it sure sounds like Wilder doesn't want it.
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    Why does it have to be agreed within 24 hours? Is the money running away?

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Can anyone here remember any time in boxing history a promoter asks to see the money secured before even beginning negotiations?

    Ask yourself does he think Al doesn't have the money? Or is this more likely an absurd distraction?
    You want to try unraveling that? It is quite likely an absurd distraction by Wilder. It would follow form. This is a guy who has taken the most meandering path he could to avoid meeting any real challenges. You are turning this on it's head in order to preserve the notion that Joshua and Hearn who have invited Wilder's team to meet face to face, to negotiate etc are the ones avoiding Wilder.

    Can you remember a time in boxing history when serious offers and negotiations were carried out by suggesting 24hr deadlines without any mention of details? 24hr deadlines when planned meetings with the camp you want to fight were cancelled? Does that sound like the actions of someone eager to get a fight made?

    DO you really think Hearn is going to blow a chance to make money and history for himself as a promoter by dodging a unification bout of this magnitude.

    We will know in a few hours but it sure sounds like Wilder doesn't want it.
    Yes, he negotiated in bad faith last time after being caught blatantly lying. Why would they bother meeting someone who won't simply agree in principle to exactly what they aSked for?

    Look at the history. Hearn said fight Whyte he and you can have AJ. Wilder said, okay put it in the contract. Then Hearn changed his story to be he doesn't connect his fighters. Lied, Wilder agreed to his demands, Hearn s changes his story

    Here they said "give me 50 million and I'll agree tomorrow" again they change their story.

    how many times do you negotiate in bad faith. They are quite clear, you want the meeting, agree to the fight. And you suggest the people that won't agree to the fight are in the right. You suggest the guys caught lying repeatedly are in the right. You suggest the guys thaT have been caught lying about their demands are right. It's laughable. Just agree in principle, it's boilerplate stuff. Then negotiate the terms. As boxing has done forever.I

    You have a guy "a guy from Alabama..." As if he doesn't know where the money comes from, BS. And you're eating that nonsense up. He literally says he needs to know where the money comes from, BS, everyone knows where the money comes from.

    It's simple, agree to the fight. Everything you've asked for and more has been offered, agree to fight. Then negotiate the terms, boxing 101

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