The Wilder Excuses Begin

[Ron Swanson]

Hang on, you’re saying “Eddie doesn’t want the fight.” The video says “does Eddie Hearn want the fight? Of course!”
Now YOU CHANGE IT and say “but,but,but, Eddie hasn’t said yes to the $50 million! Well , no, of course he fucking hasn’t because they are “IN NEGOTIATIONS!” If he has said “Yes” anywhere, then we would be reading the fight has been made!
WTF is your point. Forget about moving the goalposts, yadda , yadda. Basically ,Wilder sent an e-mail to everyone offering Joshua $50 million. THE FIGHTER SENDS THE e-mail!!! Not Di Bella, not Finkel, not Haymon, but the Fighter! And you fucking expect the promoter of Joshua to say, Yeah, ok then.
Now you’re always banging on about “how fights are made,” well tell me, is this normal? Is this how fights are made?
Wilder must’ve seriously raided the piggy bank for HIM to send out e-mails offering people $50million.
Now listen, I’m going to bed now because it’s 1am over here, so don’t go getting all pissy thinking I’m ignoring you.😘

It doesn't matter who made the offer, everyone agrees that the offer was there. Dibella, Finkell, Haymon agreed to show Eddie the money.

You're the one moving the goalposts, probably why you didn't quote because I asked for someone to show me Eddie saying yes to the fight. Agreeing to the fight is far different than the fight being made. He could agree by terms sheets if he has So many issues. Agree to the 50 only, agree to the venue when he agreed with what they offer. Go point by point. This is common business.

So in March Eddie said Eddie wants to make big fights, want me to show you Eddie saying "I don't think a Wilder fight should happen this year" it's not hard to find? And when speaking about Wilder "we can get rich with no risk" saying they don't need Wilder. He keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth. Are you suggesting you don't see this? I can show you Eddie saying completely opposite things if you like. But I think we both know this so it is unnecessary.

Just let me know

“Common business” is it “Common business” to agree to a fee with a contract or showing anything that fee involves?

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-we...e-meet--127612
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-te...ch-ask--127616

Now I keep posting fresh links to show what the REAL situation is, and all you do is rinse and repeat. If you haven’t got anything new to post on the matter, don’t bother replying because quite frankly , I’m bored with it.
Btw , nice try with the “net worth” bollocks, I’ve never heard such horseshit in all my life. Before you post the ridiculous link to Hearn being one “of the wealthiest men in Essex with a net worth of $2,5” just think about how stupid that statement would be.

2.5 million is nothing.

http://higgingtonpost.com/eddie-hear...xing-promoter/

Which ridiculous article would you like?

What you keep skipping is most fights are agreed without a contract, that's why they just sent Wilder that weak deal and asked him to agree without a contract. And what you skip after that is Eddie himself has admitted they need to hammer out details together. So there can't be a functioning contract, only a partial contract. So what is Eddie even asking for, an incomplete but more specific piece of paper?

They sent us an offer but now we want a more specific incomplete offer

We said we needed to see the money they agreed So now we need to know where it came from because I'm going to pretend it came from some guy from Alabama

I also want them to teach me how to build revenue streams in the US

Until then "no decision can be made"

Be bored, it will become interesting when Eddie decided he wants the fight and this we have it

Wait a minute, before we can go any further,please can you answer me one question. Do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that link?

So from your lack of a response, you didn’t believe it. It was just another smokescreen to deflect from your ridiculous argument.
Well that’s ok, at least now I know for sure. #supertroll

https://www.networthdatabase.com/eddie-hearn-net-worth/

Let me know how many you would like to see.
Do you folks not understand how net worth is compiled? Sure, Eddie has far more than this but people with large amounts of money/income take out large loans because with the great interest rates they are afforded they would be stupid not to.

For example University of Michigan was just given 200 million dollars by the owner of the Dolphins. But instead of using that for their 100 million dollar renovation to athletic facilities they took out a loan for it. Because if you have lots of money interest is lower than inflation. Net profit. While they still have the 200 million making money. So if you look at the books they are only up 100 million in a net worth type of sense but I'm fact they are still up 200 million.

Same for Eddie, having a net worth of 2.5 million doesn't mean that's all he has. It means what he has vs what he owes out ends at 2.5 million. Only poor people don't understand how big time loans work. You take them because you profit on them vs inflation. If you have 10 million dollars and you actually have 10 million dollars you are losing money.

Tell you what Ronnie Boy, why don’t we look at this one...
https://thekingmaker.me/eddie-hearn/
This one calculates Eddie’s net worth at 10 TIMES what your little fake news articles say. Now I know you saw this, but you chose to ignore it because it didn’t suit your argument.
This one kinda backs up the figures.
http://www.essexlifemag.co.uk/people...ssex-1-5252029 no.40 on the list.
Now , there’s really no need to attempt to be condescending enough to try to tell us how net worth is calculated. I don’t care what horseshit you dredge up, if you TRULY BELIEVE that Hearn’s net worth is $2.5 million, then you are a complete imbecile! But I know you don’t believe it. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good bullshit line Ronnie boy!
Furthermore, AS YOU WELL KNOW, this is all a smokescreen anyway because it’s irrelevant what Eddie’s net worth is, because Eddie is representing Sky/Matchroom, and THEIR Net worth makes Wilder’s, Di Bella, Finkel’s and maybe even “God Haymon’s” net worth look like small change.
So stop deflecting away from the points in case, answer a question or two along the way, and stop trying to make out that you know anything about how fights are made and “big business” etc. Because your comments are beginning to make you look a bit like a clown.

And again it wasn't me that brought it up as a distraction. It was Eddie. So according to this his net worth is slightly more than "some guy from Alabama". Completely irrelevant as I said, so why did Eddie being it into the conversation. Don't close your eyes, you admit it's a distraction. Why then did he do it?

All smoke and mirrors with you pal.
1. Eddie didn’t bring up the “net worth smokescreen “ YOU DID! Eddie isn’t part of this thread and hasn’t replied to it!
2. YOU picked the net worth horseshit up and went with it. I asked YOU 3 PAGES AGO if you believed that Eddie’s net worth was $2.5 million? You’ve never answered.
a. If you dont believe it , why post it. Ans. because it deflects away from your pathetic argument.
b. If you do believe it, then you are a complete fool and it wouldn’t be worth debating with you.

So , again, do you TRULY BELIEVE that Eddie Hearn’s net worth is $2.5 million?

I've never been through Eddie's books. I have no clue so I just looked at the evidence. That's what you refuse to do look at the evidence. If you said you would fight for 50 million why not agree to 50 million? I have left you many questions you ignore them. Hey you claim I don't answer yours. Show me one I haven't answered, I can show you 10 you haven't. So you do exactly what you accuse me of.

How about the question long ago, if the money is agreed does the fight happen? Are you going to ever answer that? I don't think you will because it doesn't suit your argument

Or is the money the biggest issue to getting the fight done? Asked long ago, not answered. But doesn't suit your argument so you never answered. Again, exactly what you accuse me of.

So ahain, you make accusations to distract, show the questions I haven't answered. And I'll kindly wait for you to answer the laundry list of questions I aSked

[Beanz]

Ron

Wilder demanded Joshua agree to 50 Million

Joshua agreed


Even Wilder admits Joshua agreed

Here is the massive star Wilder getting mobbed shortly afterward

[Ron Swanson]

Ron

Wilder demanded Joshua agree to 50 Million

Joshua agreed


Even Wilder admits Joshua agreed

Here is the massive star Wilder getting mobbed shortly afterward

And Eddie, the guy I keep telling you is the issue. The guy is still saying “it can be done on our offer, our split” as of yesterday, did not. I’ve said repeatedly I think AJ would do it. You want to see how ridiculous the defense has gotten. Here is some complete BS for you. Enjoy, it’s preposterous(not Eddie here but the people defending)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=189s&v=T3qmtCx8Cbc

OMG Eddie had the nerve to say this nonsense at the end of the interview 😂

This guy has no limits. A verbal agreement without details isn’t binding FFS, such nonsense.

Just say “we agree to the fight, we agree to the money, if the details are fair”. No issue what so ever. The load of bullocks this guy feeds the U.K. press is astounding

[imp]

I have no idea who wins this fight but what I do know is that there’s always an A side and a B side.

Joshua is the A side in every single way and if this fight doesn’t happen it’s down to Wilder.

Eddie and AJ are in full control and it has to happen in Wembley..where’s this contract for 50million?!!

Jokers.

[Ron Swanson]

And just like Eddie again belittling to distract. It isn’t about how big a star Wilder is, it’s about money. But that doesn’t suit the argument so distract. But speaking of star. Cubans are known to not sell in USA but Wilder vs Ortiz did 1.1 million viewers (Wilder has regularly been most viewed, curious for someone nobody knows but let’s just say it because you folks eat it up). AJ vs Parker did less than 900k in afternoon showing, prime time replay and next days replay combined. The numbers, not factually incorrect insults, say AJ needs Wilder to sell.

[Ron Swanson]

I have no idea who wins this fight but what I do know is that there’s always an A side and a B side.

Joshua is the A side in every single way and if this fight doesn’t happen it’s down to Wilder.

Eddie and AJ are in full control and it has to happen in Wembley..where’s this contract for 50million?!!

Jokers.

Where was the contract when Eddie made the offer? There wasn’t one just the same. They’ve been quite clear. Agree to the money and the contract will come. Just like Eddie does it

[Ron Swanson]

This just goes in nonsensical circles because we all know fights are about money. All the distractions in the world won’t change that. Agree to the money and a contract comes.

[Ron Swanson]

Still waiting for someone to say “if the money is agreed it still won’t happen” but I don’t expect to hear that because we all know fights are about money

[Ron Swanson]

How about this. Since we know U.K. has the best support of their guys. Let’s look at it the other way.

Imagine Wilder said offer 20 million and I’ll agree tomorrow.

And Eddie sent an offer for 20 million

Then Wilder said I need to see the money and Eddie said okay, just agree to the money and we’ll show it to you

And Wilder said I need you to show me how the fight will generate money, plus, I am not sure I want 20 anymore I think it could be done my way where me and AJ make less money

Would you think Wilder was right? I’d really like to see someone say they would think that Wilder was right in this scenario for laughs so someone please say this hahaha

[Ron Swanson]

The latest I've found from Eddie, only made it 1:41 in so far. He's already lied suggesting Wilder was the only person that said they would provide proof of funds. Truth is Finkell also sent him an email, we've seen it. Haymon also quietly said so as Haymon does.

And he's already talking about their new offer, as in as he has been saying "our offer, our split" so anyone suggesting they agreed, stop. The title suggests it all. Eager to see the rest, hopefully there is some truth in it


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DywPJfnducQ

[Ron Swanson]

3:30 in and more lies “I don’t know where they intend to stage the fight” we all know. Slight chance of New York but almost assuredly Vegas

[Ron Swanson]

3:48 and he has already lied again suggesting Wilder is the only one talking about the deal.

[Ron Swanson]

4:18 in and he has said he thinks they are trying to get them to agree then they will go shop the fight “that’s how I’d do it, shop in Vegas, in New York, we’re not interested in being shopped around”

So now he admits he knows where the fight would be and says he doesn’t want them doing it how he would do it FFS how do you all support this guy?

[Ron Swanson]

4:29 but Eddie why does it matter where the money comes from? “Because we don’t want to be whored out” my gawd this guy is so full of it

[Ron Swanson]

5:04 he has begun talking about the details that need to be worked out. No shit, that’s what negotiations are for after agreeing to fight