Bellew v Haye 2 - 5/5/18 - O2 London

[Ron Swanson]

What did Haye's injury in the first fight and up being?

Admittedly I don't like Hate and never paid close attention

[Master]

What did Haye's injury in the first fight and up being?

Admittedly I don't like Hate and never paid close attention

Haye's achilles snapped during the fight and as a result he lost. Bellew was still not able to stop him and was tired mid way into the fight as he put on too much weight.

[X]

​Yes, it was fairly dramatic ..... but nonetheless a poor quality contest between a Has Been and a Never Was

[Memphis]

The obvious failing of his body aside, Haye looked like dogshite in the first fight. No timing, no power, a complete lack of or abandonment of boxing fundamentals. Even when his leg fell off his only retort was to back away, cover up a bit and swing the occasional arm punch.

He knows how Bellew will play it, he'll be playing the waiting game giving Haye every opportunity to do the work for him and fall apart. Haye is either going to have to be equally as patient, or he's going to have to dig a proper laser guided right hand out of the vault.

If Haye's body holds up and he wins this fight with ease then I suggest we all go vegan immediately.

[smashup]

The obvious failing of his body aside, Haye looked like dogshite in the first fight. No timing, no power, a complete lack of or abandonment of boxing fundamentals. Even when his leg fell off his only retort was to back away, cover up a bit and swing the occasional arm punch.

He knows how Bellew will play it, he'll be playing the waiting game giving Haye every opportunity to do the work for him and fall apart. Haye is either going to have to be equally as patient, or he's going to have to dig a proper laser guided right hand out of the vault.

If Haye's body holds up and he wins this fight with ease then I suggest we all go vegan immediately.

This is exactly why i'm thinking this could well be a very cagey fight or at least cagey first half of the fight, the only way i see Haye winning is to sit back and counter like he did against Enzo Maccarinelli.

Problem is that's Bellews game so i can see them both just circling each other for ages until things heat up.

I also don't think Haye can throw that right hand Hayemaker effectively in a straight line anymore due to his shoulder injury which is why he was missing Bellew by miles with those huge looping/lunging right hooks.

Somewhere down the line this will catch fire as Haye could well be in desperation mode and need a KO later on to save his career.

One thing this fight should guarantee is drama at some stage but i think we'll see a cagey opening unlike last time where it was a shoot out from the off.

[Primo Carnera]

In the real world , I couldn’t give 2 shits about this fight. But in “Saddo prediction championship” World, I’m really concerned that Haye is gonna lose me my titles.
You don’t have the injuries that Haye has had at his age and come back strong.
I’ve just watched the behind the ropes programme and Haye doesn’t do any running or mobility work, he doesn’t appear to do any sparring, then he thinks he can go in the ring on fight night and the timing will just come.
It didn’t last time and it won’t this time.
What fucking annoys me most, is that this all makes Bellew look like a decent fighter. Never have I seen anybody over achieve by as much as he has.
To think he became a World Champion, and earned mega bucks , whereas Herrol Graham for example never really disappoints me.
No doubt I’m gonna get slated for this , but fuck it.

[Gandalf]

I think he was missing with those shots in the first fight because he had no legs from the off. Whatever was plaguing him finally went during the fight making it even worse. You don't come out with bad footwork like that out of nowhere. I think Haye thought it would be an easy nights work and thought he could go in there and bomb his man out. Not to be. Hopefully he is healed and can give a good fight.

[X]

What fucking annoys me most, is that this all makes Bellew look like a decent fighter. Never have I seen anybody over achieve by as much as he has.
To think he became a World Champion, and earned mega bucks , whereas Herrol Graham for example never really disappoints me.

Mate, you are spot on.

No slagging off coming from me on that one.

[GAME]

The obvious failing of his body aside, Haye looked like dogshite in the first fight. No timing, no power, a complete lack of or abandonment of boxing fundamentals. Even when his leg fell off his only retort was to back away, cover up a bit and swing the occasional arm punch.

He knows how Bellew will play it, he'll be playing the waiting game giving Haye every opportunity to do the work for him and fall apart. Haye is either going to have to be equally as patient, or he's going to have to dig a proper laser guided right hand out of the vault.

If Haye's body holds up and he wins this fight with ease then I suggest we all go vegan immediately.

This is exactly why i'm thinking this could well be a very cagey fight or at least cagey first half of the fight, the only way i see Haye winning is to sit back and counter like he did against Enzo Maccarinelli.

Problem is that's Bellews game so i can see them both just circling each other for ages until things heat up.

I also don't think Haye can throw that right hand Hayemaker effectively in a straight line anymore due to his shoulder injury which is why he was missing Bellew by miles with those huge looping/lunging right hooks.

Somewhere down the line this will catch fire as Haye could well be in desperation mode and need a KO later on to save his career.

One thing this fight should guarantee is drama at some stage but i think we'll see a cagey opening unlike last time where it was a shoot out from the off.

Agree with this. Haye can't throw straight and it will be a cagey fight early on

i reckon Haye will win and I've always thought since the 1st fight that without the injury he's good enough to beat Bellew. I stick by that but I got a feeling that it's gonna be another long fight damaging to his reputation and ego. He will probably win the decision in a close fight but I expect he may still choose to retire after a less than convincing performance