Marvel Black Panther film

[Spicoli]

Haven't seen it. But I was more pissed that they sold it, hyped it and I even heard 'it's the first black super hero movie'. They better apologize to Wesley snipes and Meteor Man right now! did you know there was even a black Captain America? Talk about ticking people off if that movie was made .

we've come along way from John Wayne being cast as Genghis Khan.

[goti71]

I haven't seen it yet and I'm usually reluctant to go and watch films if I sense they're too suspiciously hyped-up (just a pet peeve of mine), and especially after reading similar criticisms like X's online.

Apparently it also thrives on white guilt or colonial guilt (didn't one of the female characters call some white guy a "colonizer" or something?).
There was even a woman tweeting that she was going to wait a couple of weeks before watching it because she didn't want to spoil black people's "moment" with her presence. I know it's just an extreme case of whackiness but still, if that's the underlying theme of the film then it must be shit.

That and the laser-tipped bone spears.

I'll download it for 1.5€ when it's available for 1.5€.

[El Kabong]

Colonization for as bad as SOME of it was also had it's extremely beneficial parts


Also @goti71 valid points dude

[Beanz]

Colonization for as bad as SOME of it was also had it's extremely beneficial parts


Also @goti71 valid points dude

WTF ? Ha! Tell that to all the people the Brits,Spanish, French and Dutch fucked over

[El Kabong]

Colonization for as bad as SOME of it was also had it's extremely beneficial parts


Also @goti71 valid points dude

WTF ? Ha! Tell that to all the people the Brits,Spanish, French and Dutch fucked over

I didn't say colonization was a 100% good thing, I just do not believe it was 100% bad either and unlike you I'll provide reasons why:

Medicine - areas colonized in Africa, the Americas, and Asia were hotbeds for various diseases. Diseases which needed to be cured in order for colonies to keep.

Government - colonized places took forms of government from the nations that colonized them, SOME even made their own contributions to better, more free, just, and effective government than saaaaaaay ooooh I don't know the Aztecs who still practiced human sacrifice. Oh yeah and not all governments pre-colonization were all that great either so this is a two-fer better government AND removal of despotic tribal leaders as well. Now not all #NotAll colonizers were good, King Leopold II was a horrible murderous tyrant himself.


Wealth - Colonization and the economics brought with it were not a zero sum game, colonization lifted many many many people out of poverty. Increased demand for goods from the colonized areas enriched many. Standard of living rose. Local businesses grew.


Infrastructure - Colonization brought infrastructure to areas that previously had no roads. Look at what the Romans accomplished for fucks sake....not a fan of roads....I know you don't like Rhodes either, but if he had completed his vision of a continent spanning South Africa to Egypt railway then I'm certain a large portion of Africa wouldn't be a fucking destitute as they are right now.


Tourism - like venturing out to lands where you've never been before? Like going on vacation? Well due to the increased peace and increased shared languages (thank you colonization) you're more free to take that trip to wherever the hell you'd like to go.


Millions......AND MILLIONS......of lives were saved.
http://www.history-magazine.com/potato.html
Crops were failing all the time, famines, pestilence were hitting Europe hard and then.....somebody goes and finds a potato and the world is changed for the better.

Education - not only did colonizers bring with them their European education and religion and taught foreigners, they also learned from foreigners.


Art - tremendously impacted by colonization painting, architecture, pottery, music, etc everything has been greatly impacted by colonization.




Yes, there were bad things from colonization I admit that from the start, but as is your usual practice you jump right into confrontation with me....I've explained myself more clearly now, would you care to counter my post or just be an asshole? I kind of figure you're going to choose asshole, but maybe you'll surprise me.

[X]

Yes, colonisation had some good points, like technology transfer and exposure to a big wide world. I speak as someone whose country was colonised (before my time of course).

it had bad points too, but I suppose everything does really?

At least it wasn't a bullshit insulting film, in fairness

[Gandalf]

I can't be bothered with these films. There are too many of these comic book/superhero films now and I don't see the point in them. Once you start making films about an Iron Man, I am lost. Superman is the most interesting one for me, but I think the recent films have been poor and so I cannot bear to watch them and will avoid any new ones. Christopher Reeve was Superman. He was so perfect in the role and those first 3 films are always good on repeat. I never get bored of them. Zod is probably my biggest role model. He hates everyone, has wonderful diction, and is completely bored on a very mediocre planet full of bleating sheep. I really love the way Reeve plays Superman and Kent. I am waffling, but I will never watch that Black Panther film, it sounds corny. Another thing I hate is how they try to politicise films. Who needs an all female Ghostbusters? What is the point of these things. Again, I refuse to watch any of these films. Why do you need to watch any of them when you have the original Ghostbusters or Superman? When you have perfection, you don't try to remake it again. Badly. Just leave well alone.