The Wilder Excuses Begin

[powerpuncher]

Boys, This fight will not take place anytime soon. Stephen A. Smith of ESPN said Joshua team gave Wilder a low ball deal for this fight. He said Wilder needs Joshua to make money. But Joshua doesn't need Wilder to make money. So with that info I see Joshua fighting 3 or 4 more times before Wilder fight. Maybe around 2020.

Don’t listen to anything that Stephen A Smith says. He’s an idiot and knows nothing about boxing.

[Ron Swanson]

Barry Hearn says AJ will decide on Povetkin fight in 7-10 days. Is that before or after Eddie's counter offer to Wilder? Not being snarky, I forget, it seems like he said that offer would be in 2 weeks but maybe he said a date

[mrbig1]

Boys, This fight will not take place anytime soon. Stephen A. Smith of ESPN said Joshua team gave Wilder a low ball deal for this fight. He said Wilder needs Joshua to make money. But Joshua doesn't need Wilder to make money. So with that info I see Joshua fighting 3 or 4 more times before Wilder fight. Maybe around 2020.

Don’t listen to anything that Stephen A Smith says. He’s an idiot and knows nothing about boxing.

In this case I believe he is right. This will be by far the biggest HW fight since Tyson vs Lewis. Tyson and Lewis got paid 37 million each. Joshua team is only offering 12 million. Understand this a old trick in boxing. They know Wilder will never take that deal.

[Fenster]

Comparing this lark to Tyson-Lewis is chalk and cheese.

Tyson is one the most famous people to ever walk the earth, Lewis was the universally recognised undisputed champion of the world. THE man. No Guy Test! They spent more on sparring partners per camp than Wilder's biggest ever purse.

Back then half of South London would come to a standstill when Tyson was recognised on the streets, he needed to be rescued by the fuzz from thousands of adoring fans, Wilder could stroll through Brixton screaming "bomb squad" and nobody would batter an eyelid.

[Ron Swanson]

Dude can’t help himself from being completely full of poo. He says Shirley hurts the negotiations going to the media AS HE IS SPEAKING TO THE MEDIA AS HE DOES EVERY DAY. And he admits now, completely different than before that they don’t need a meeting. Always speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dC-KAiJH0v8

[Fenster]

Don King - "what are the conditions of this $50 million offer, be cool Deontay, all these numbers are pie in the sky, we want something sound, on the ground"

[Ron Swanson]

I hope you all recognize I’m just teasing Eddie at this point for how he says something and says the exact opposite. It sounds like there is progress. I just expect one side or the other to announce a fight before they fight. Then the fight that matters to be next. Because it gives it time to grow. And I’m impatient.

Figure since it has gone quiet I’ll explain something from fat earlier.

Eddie saying he needs to see all revenue streams before agreeing. My problem with this was if they show Eddie all revenue streams and Eddie sees how the fight could make(for example) 85 million. He could then turn and offer AJ 50 million and 1 with 50% of upside and Wilder 50% of upside. To bring himself into play. Because I’m quite sure his biggest issue with the 50 million offer was his lack of control. If he makes the same offer he’s in control.

Hope it’s next. To me U.K./USA is irrelevant as far as outcome. Because someone is going to sleep. Only relevant in amount each fighter makes.

[TitoFan]

It's all posturing. Hearn wants to drive home the opinion that AJ is worth much more than Wilder... and of course Wilder is going to resist that. In the end I think (almost) everyone agrees that Joshua is entitled to a bigger piece of the pie than Wilder, based on his bigger popularity overall, and the fact that his paydays have been much bigger than Wilder's. But just how much more of the pie is what seems to be the sticking point. I can't blame Wilder for scoffing at the original flat $12.5 million offer, which IMO was a slap in the face, regardless of whether it was a ploy or not. Doesn't matter, because like it's been said, the negotiations unfortunately are being held very publicly. Probably if the negotiations were being held behind closed doors, we'd already have a fight put together.