No way! Bellew beat a shot fighter. Why take this win out of context?Originally Posted by imp
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No way! Bellew beat a shot fighter. Why take this win out of context?
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No one else was calling out David Haye?!No way! Bellew beat a shot fighter. Why take this win out of context?
Look at the fighters that Wilder fought and compare them to David Haye..Bellew was not expected to beat Haye in the first place!
Regardless of what everyone thinks of Haye as a person, he is a dangerous fight for anyone and quietly the other heavyweights breathed a sign of relief when this happened..no one knew his body was going to start breaking up in the first fight and everyone still fought he was going to beat Bellew in the rematch.
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Maybe if I were a Brit I would pay more attention to Bellew. It’s weird that he even gets attention. I had no interest in the fight whatsoever, and have no interest in his career moving forward.
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Most heavyweights would have loved to fought Haye for the profile and money including AJ.No one else was calling out David Haye?!No way! Bellew beat a shot fighter. Why take this win out of context?
Look at the fighters that Wilder fought and compare them to David Haye..Bellew was not expected to beat Haye in the first place!
Regardless of what everyone thinks of Haye as a person, he is a dangerous fight for anyone and quietly the other heavyweights breathed a sign of relief when this happened..no one knew his body was going to start breaking up in the first fight and everyone still fought he was going to beat Bellew in the rematch.
Bellew falls in that catogory and he will have to avoid all the top heavyweights too.
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Let Parker beat him up.
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Parker has no title so Bellew will have no interest in him.
Listening to Bellew make excuses why he will not fight anyone half decent will be funny.
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Ward as in Andre Ward?!?!?
Wasn't he off somewhere enjoying his unbeaten record safely in retirement? Geez..... I thought we had gotten rid of this guy already.
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We could say that about a lot of guys.
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There is a thread about Bellew and you are complaining about Ward?
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There is a thread about Bellew and you are complaining about Ward?
Hell yeah. Comes out of nowhere to destroy Kov's aura of invincibility (well.... the 1st one was an undeserved gift. The 2nd one will forever remain one of boxing's great mysteries how he got into Kov's head). He safely retires with his "0" intact. And now he's taking a page out RJJ's and Toney's book as lighter weight stars who dabble at HW (well ok.... it's cruiserweight for now for Ward). It's a win-win for Ward, who I have to hand it to him he's been real savvy with his career. I've never liked Ward, and wish he would just go away.
BTW, every opponent Kov krushes from here on out is another feather in Ward's cap. You could say he put some good money in boxing's stock market, and every time the stock goes up he gets richer and richer.
Bellew is irrevelant, as far as I'm concerned. He'll of course try to milk his irrevelant win over Haye for all it's worth.
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I consider the 2nd Ward/ Kov ending along the lines of Duran/ Buchanan.
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I gave you a like because I agree with almost everything in your post. but I can't agree that he has been savvy with his career. I think exactly the opposite. I believe that all the time he wasted not boxing because of poor decisions contractually and stubbornness and ignorance in trying to get out of that meant that he lost the momentum to be one of the truly All time great Boxers.There is a thread about Bellew and you are complaining about Ward?
Hell yeah. Comes out of nowhere to destroy Kov's aura of invincibility (well.... the 1st one was an undeserved gift. The 2nd one will forever remain one of boxing's great mysteries how he got into Kov's head). He safely retires with his "0" intact. And now he's taking a page out RJJ's and Toney's book as lighter weight stars who dabble at HW (well ok.... it's cruiserweight for now for Ward). It's a win-win for Ward, who I have to hand it to him he's been real savvy with his career. I've never liked Ward, and wish he would just go away.
BTW, every opponent Kov krushes from here on out is another feather in Ward's cap. You could say he put some good money in boxing's stock market, and every time the stock goes up he gets richer and richer.
Bellew is irrevelant, as far as I'm concerned. He'll of course try to milk his irrevelant win over Haye for all it's worth.
if he has stayed active after the super 6, he could've mopped up the LHW's that much earlier and would've probably gone up and done the same at CW.
And I firmly believe that Virgil saw first hand what Ward had and that's why he made the Joshua statement that a lot of people ridiculed him for.
that's why I said at the time , that after they gave that situation "some due diligence" , if they thought that it was a possibility, I would give him a chance.
But in reality, as it's gone all quiet , they probably thought better of it.
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David Haye is a dangerous fight for Mark De Mori, Arnold Whatshisname, or whatever cardboard cut-out Haye thinks he can pass off as a worthy opponent in front of adoring Zelebs at the O2 Arena, but he is not a dangerous fight for any of the top HWs.No one else was calling out David Haye?!No way! Bellew beat a shot fighter. Why take this win out of context?
Look at the fighters that Wilder fought and compare them to David Haye..Bellew was not expected to beat Haye in the first place!
Regardless of what everyone thinks of Haye as a person, he is a dangerous fight for anyone and quietly the other heavyweights breathed a sign of relief when this happened..no one knew his body was going to start breaking up in the first fight and everyone still fought he was going to beat Bellew in the rematch.
Bellew told everyone who would listen that Haye was only back for the money & wasn't serious about boxing & he was 100% spot-on.
I bet the top dogs in the HW division didn't really give a stuff about Haye either way.
He hasn't beaten an HW with a pulse since 2012 & that was only the consistently inconsistent Dereck Chisora.
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Bellew may as well retire if he can not get another novelty fight such as Andre Ward.
No way will Bellew take on a legitimate heavyweight as he would get massacred.
No way Bellew is going back down in weight as he would get battered by the current crop and he would not make weight.
No way will he take on Tyson Fury, different promoters and he is just too big.
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