You can know who a man is by his enemies

[walrus]

Sometimes a man could just be a paranoid kook who plays the victim card far too often .

Oh I definitely agree. But what I cited above is a definite reality.

Honestly those are convenience type enemies in the world we live in. Red meat to get you stirred. Real enemies lop your head off and play footy with it.

To an extent but the ones who chop of your head stand out more. It’s the enemy within that can have a more dramatic effect. Like water carving rock over time, it leaves an indelible signature and is almost impossible to defeat. You can’t bomb within.

[TitoFan]

Then again there's always another spin you can put on things.

You could say Trump brings out such unmitigated hatred in people that even groups who normally don't weigh too much on politics are coming out of the woodwork to give everyone their opinions. Usually it's just the Republicans and Democrats going at it playing the usual political games. If my guy's in power he can do nothing wrong. If it's the other guy he can do nothing right. But Trump has the celebrities hating on him. Thing is, it's not just the celebrities. They just happen to have a ready-made podium and audience. It's unfortunate, really.... because many of them know nothing of how government works or should work. Many of them don't know politics, finances, foreign affairs, nothing. But that doesn't stop them from voicing their very loud and sometimes obnoxious opinions. Unfortunately, because it gives a bulls-eye to Trump supporters who see him as doing nothing wrong. It's ludicrous to think that celebrities are Trump's only enemies. They're just the most high-profile. Millions of others have legitimate beefs, but will never be on the Tonight Show to be able to articulate them in front of a national audience. You could actually say having the Madonna's, the Streep's, and the Clooney's as enemies is actually a good thing or Trump. On the other hand, he's got Kanye West on his side. Guess you can't win 'em all, huh.

[walrus]

Then again there's always another spin you can put on things.

You could say Trump brings out such unmitigated hatred in people that even groups who normally don't weigh too much on politics are coming out of the woodwork to give everyone their opinions. Usually it's just the Republicans and Democrats going at it playing the usual political games. If my guy's in power he can do nothing wrong. If it's the other guy he can do nothing right. But Trump has the celebrities hating on him. Thing is, it's not just the celebrities. They just happen to have a ready-made podium and audience. It's unfortunate, really.... because many of them know nothing of how government works or should work. Many of them don't know politics, finances, foreign affairs, nothing. But that doesn't stop them from voicing their very loud and sometimes obnoxious opinions. Unfortunately, because it gives a bulls-eye to Trump supporters who see him as doing nothing wrong. It's ludicrous to think that celebrities are Trump's only enemies. They're just the most high-profile. Millions of others have legitimate beefs, but will never be on the Tonight Show to be able to articulate them in front of a national audience. You could actually say having the Madonna's, the Streep's, and the Clooney's as enemies is actually a good thing or Trump. On the other hand, he's got Kanye West on his side. Guess you can't win 'em all, huh.

He was in the public eye for 30 years, no problems with celebrities, no problem with being a racist damn they turn on a dime, it’s almost like it’s good press for celebs to dis the pres, oddly, the press eats it up

[TitoFan]

Then again there's always another spin you can put on things.

You could say Trump brings out such unmitigated hatred in people that even groups who normally don't weigh too much on politics are coming out of the woodwork to give everyone their opinions. Usually it's just the Republicans and Democrats going at it playing the usual political games. If my guy's in power he can do nothing wrong. If it's the other guy he can do nothing right. But Trump has the celebrities hating on him. Thing is, it's not just the celebrities. They just happen to have a ready-made podium and audience. It's unfortunate, really.... because many of them know nothing of how government works or should work. Many of them don't know politics, finances, foreign affairs, nothing. But that doesn't stop them from voicing their very loud and sometimes obnoxious opinions. Unfortunately, because it gives a bulls-eye to Trump supporters who see him as doing nothing wrong. It's ludicrous to think that celebrities are Trump's only enemies. They're just the most high-profile. Millions of others have legitimate beefs, but will never be on the Tonight Show to be able to articulate them in front of a national audience. You could actually say having the Madonna's, the Streep's, and the Clooney's as enemies is actually a good thing or Trump. On the other hand, he's got Kanye West on his side. Guess you can't win 'em all, huh.

He was in the public eye for 30 years, no problems with celebrities, no problem with being a racist damn they turn on a dime, it’s almost like it’s good press for celebs to dis the pres, oddly, the press eats it up

He wasn't a public threat while gobbling up properties in New York.

[brocktonblockbust]

Tito fan you are grasping at straws. Walrus makes a great point he was the favorite of all celebrities and a big hit in Hollywood and did all the talk show circuits for years. Now suddenly they are all saying he is Hitler

[walrus]

Tito stop grasping at straws

[Gandalf]

If you don't have enemies you are doing something wrong - Gandalf 2018.