Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
At one time I was a fan of Floyd...His mouth got him in trouble...He said one thing I agree with..."If you don't think your the best out there then you shouldn't be in the game no matter what your record is"....I agree with this. He made comments about fighters of the past that were not called for. It is one thing to be confident another to be arrogant....IMO it was his comments about Robinson that hurt him...Fine say I will be as great as Robinson...Or even I feel I am as good as Him....Even I will surpass him...But Floyd said I am better than Ray Robinson ever was...He said it with not conviction but in mockery almost distain....as if the fans had nerve to even think he wasn't the greatest ever....Truth is there are a list of guys better than Floyd from the past....Robinson,,Ray Leonard,,,Ali,,Hank Armstrong just to name a few...Also you need an impressive string of top opponents not a few good ones and dominate performances against pretty good guys...He was having a hard time early with Judah...Augustus tested him to the limit...Castillo was robbed.....Floyd may by time he is done be the greatest but it is a capital MAYBE.....IMO right now Winkey is better P4P....He causes his own problems with the media....His comments on Robinson would be like if Carter said he was a better president than FDR....
I half agree.. But really, he very well may be BETTER(not greater) then Sugar Ray Robinson even in his absolute prime(I haven't seen any of him there and I don't think many have seen his fights at welter). You can't really criticize him for having a hard time with Judah... sugar ray Robinson had a hard time with lots of fighters.. Lamotta wasn't a p4p great with any great talents... Also, Augustus pushed Floyd to the limits?? PLEASE, I hate people who think this. I have the fight on my computer, Augustus lands one decent punch in the entire fight, which made Floyd bleed from the nose. Aside from that, it was as onesided as any of Floyds fights, just because Emanuel danced around like an idiot while eating punches doesn't mean he was competitive whatsoever. And sure many think Castillo was robbed... Im not going to bother and look through Sugar Rays record but right on boxrec I remember there were several of his earlier fights where the crowed booed loudly with the decision, and it probably wasn't against fighters as good as Castillo. There's no question Ray Robinson achieved unbelieveable things in the sport, and was vastly talented for his time.. But I think from all footage I have seen, that Floyd WAS p4p a better fighter.. He is more polished, better skilled, far better defensively, I don't even see it being that close tbo.. There are several fighters who were imo p4p better than SRR as well, including Leonard, Duran, and Whittaker. Floyd is seriously underrated on an all time level, just as most current fighters are.. It takes years until they get the respect they deserve.. The only thing that makes it impossible for Floyd to ever achieve the greatness that Robinson did is the way the sport has evolved... Noone fights twice a week anymore against top contenders.. It just can't happen like that.