Today in Trump

[El Kabong]

AND

Trump administration to provide records on Obama-era gun-smuggling probe
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1GJ2KH?



....the wheels of justice start turning

[walrus]

Denison it's just like the Supreme Court judge and walrus is just like the Supreme Court Judge who for $20,000 decided to suddenly and magically make Armenians into white people

No it’s your mother was Italian but u think what you want it’s just a bit crazy u make a deal about it

[El Kabong]

Huh....AG Kramer is a specialist in human trafficking....interesting

[El Kabong]

NXIVM 'sex cult' doctor is charged with conducting 'fright study' experiments and showing members videos of rape, dismemberment and a man being forced to eat his own brain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...periments.html


Yyyyyyeah so there's that

[El Kabong]

Paul Sperry reporting via Twitter:

#1 DEVELOPING: A major new front is opening in the political espionage scandal. In summer 2016, Brennan with his FBI liaison Strzok, along with help from Kerry @ State, were trying to set Russian espionage traps for minor players in the Trump campaign through cultivated intel assets

#2 BREAKING: Comey lied to his memoir re Gen. Flynn:

(p. 253) "On Jan 24 (2017), I dispatched 2 agents to White House to interview Flynn. He lied to the agents"

(declassified HPSCI interview March 2, 2017) "They saw nothing that indicated to them that he knew he was lying to them"

#3 BREAKING: IG Horowitz has found "reasonable grounds" for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ's handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution

#4 BREAKING: Comey and Yates had at least 5 members of Trump's team under secret federal surveillance during the 2016 campaign, including Gen. Flynn & BREAKING: Comey/Yates targeted Gen. Flynn in C.I. investigation a yr BEFORE he communicated w Russian ambassador in Dec 2016 as a transition official--and the trigger was Flynn sitting at same table w Putin at Dec 2015 Moscow event, even tho Green Party's Jill Stein also at table

#5 IG's independence key: According to the IG statute, IG Horowitz is required to report any criminal activity to AG (Sessions) specifically, & the IG is supervised by 2 people--the AG & the deputy AG, but ONLY if the AG (Sessions) delegates that authority to the deputy (Rosenstein)

#6 The media elite are now forever part of the Deep State. They are complicit in the cover-up of political espionage by the intelligence community. There is no going back for them.

[brocktonblockbust]

The left-wing media needs to be shut down as they are An Enemy of the State

[El Kabong]

The left-wing media needs to be shut down as they are An Enemy of the State

The degree of intellectual dishonesty on display in reporting on Trump's "animals" comment was just astounding. Trump is asked directly about MS-13 and he responded directly about MS-13 but the media want to act like Trump was talking about any and all immigrants not even illegal immigrants.....it's preposterous!

Also I've noticed that Kirkland hasn't been around lately to post here, he must be readying his Trump impeachment party since that will be coming up soon

[El Kabong]

Tweet from journalist Sharyl Attkisson

"I think there's a major fallacy in focusing on the 2016 election without understanding the bigger part of the picture: *why* bad actors in intel community were so desperate to not have Trump elected. It's about what could be discovered about the past 10-20 years. Not just 2016. https://twitter.com/Mar2vin/status/997312406220091392 …"

11:42 PM - May 17, 2018
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Why indeed

[El Kabong]

Tweet thread from Kim Strassel who has been absolutely killing it reporting for the Wall Street Journal

1. So a few important points on that new NYT "Hurricane Crossfire" piece. A story that, BTW, all of us following this knew had to be coming. This is DOJ/FBI leakers' attempt to get in front of the facts Nunes is forcing out, to make it not sound so bad. Don't buy it. It's bad.

2. Biggest takeaway: Govt "sources" admit that, indeed, the Obama DOJ and FBI spied on the Trump campaign. Spied. (Tho NYT kindly calls spy an "informant.") NYT slips in confirmation far down in story, and makes it out like it isn't a big deal. It is a very big deal.

3. In self-serving desire to get a sympathetic story about its actions, DOJ/FBI leakers are willing to provide yet more details about that "top secret" source (namely, that spying was aimed at Page/Papadopoulos)--making all more likely/certain source will be outed. That's on them

4. DOJ/FBI (and its leakers) have shredded what little credibility they have in claiming they cannot comply with subpoena. They are willing to provide details to friendly media, but not Congress? Willing to risk very source they claim to need to protect?

5. Back in Dec., NYT assured us it was the Papadopoulos-Downer convo that inspired FBI to launch official counterintelligence operation on July 31, 2016. Which was convenient, since it diminished the role of the dossier. However . . .

6. Now NYT tells us FBI didn't debrief downer until August 2nd. And Nunes says no "official intelligence" from allies was delivered to FBI about that convo prior to July 31. So how did FBI get Downer details? (Political actors?) And what really did inspire the CI investigation?

7. As for whether to believe line that FBI operated soberly/carefully/judiciously in 2016, a main source for this judgment is, um . . .uh . . . Sally Yates. Who was in middle of it all. A bit like asking Putin to reassure that Russia didn't meddle in our election.

8. On that, if u r wondering who narrated this story, note paragraphs that assure everybody that hardly anybody in DOJ knew about probe. Oh, and Comey also was given few details. Nobody knew nothin'! (Cuz when u require whole story saying u behaved, it means u know you didn't.)

[brocktonblockbust]

This left-wing Obama Comey Clinton Department of Justice FBI collusion Saul Alinsky reversed siop on Trump is just the tip of the iceberg and before it is over there will be some assassinations at the top level and I mean literally which will tear this country apart. Are you ready for Civil War?

[DenilsonTheReturn]

This left-wing Obama Comey Clinton Department of Justice FBI collusion Saul Alinsky reversed siop on Trump is just the tip of the iceberg and before it is over there will be some assassinations at the top level and I mean literally which will tear this country apart. Are you ready for Civil War?

Left wing means n*gger lovers. Liberals means n*gger lovers. Just talk proper. Instead of talking in code.

[walrus]

This left-wing Obama Comey Clinton Department of Justice FBI collusion Saul Alinsky reversed siop on Trump is just the tip of the iceberg and before it is over there will be some assassinations at the top level and I mean literally which will tear this country apart. Are you ready for Civil War?

Left wing means n*gger lovers. Liberals means n*gger lovers. Just talk proper. Instead of talking in code.

Sorry big D but when we talk left wing it’s not about race

[Beanz]

This left-wing Obama Comey Clinton Department of Justice FBI collusion Saul Alinsky reversed siop on Trump is just the tip of the iceberg and before it is over there will be some assassinations at the top level and I mean literally which will tear this country apart. Are you ready for Civil War?

Left wing means n*gger lovers. Liberals means n*gger lovers. Just talk proper. Instead of talking in code.

Seriously even though he can be a complete prick Brockton is not a racist. Left Wing in America is almost center ground politics here in the UK. It is why even mentioning the word social as in 'Social Justice' 'Socialist' etc gets you labelled immediately as a communist. Most of Europe finds this to be quite hilarious. Like Thatcher the right in the USA seems not to believe in Society either.

The Alinsky rubbish is surprising from someone as intelligent as Brockton but is a common accusation from those on the right in America (the far right everywhere else). Many politicians and community organisers for all ends of the political spectrum use Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. It is the utilization of rule 5 that got Donald 'Deep State' Trump elected and still there are many Alinsky rules by which he runs everything now.


Rule 5. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon - This is what Trump does. He hates it when the same rule is mirrored back at him but it is his guiding principle. It also seems to be Lyle, Walrus and Brocktons favourite tactic here on the forum. It proves that Trump is not an outsider at all.

Rule 13 - Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. This again is a central method employed in American politics and sadly something being adopted here in Europe recently. No middle ground, no reasoning, no common ground, no consensus, Polarize. My way or the high way. Trump's shit doesn't stink, everyone else is a vile piece of human garbage ruled by Satan or some daft rubbish. Again employed by his sheep like followers here on the forum.

Rule 6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. 'Build the wall, build the wall' 'Throw them out' 'Fake news' etc . This again is what swept Trump to power no different to Hilary in the middle on the left or the previous Republicans on the right. It proves that surprisingly he is much more of a devoted disciple of Alinsky than Obama who while adoptding rule one, questioned the others.

I could go on but the point is even the Tea Party used Alinsky just as Trump is in creating division because they believe just like Alinsky that the end justifies any means. They hate the idea that there privilege is threatened and so have doubled down in an insane display of self hypnotizing in which an establishment reality TV star with vast inherited wealth and multiple bankruptcies is now in their minds transformed into some kind of genius outsider who has to fight the establishment. He has spent his life swimming in the same swamp but they refuse to admit it now they have nailed their colours to the mast.


Most people can see how full of shit both sides are. They think that they and Trump are one of those people, but actually they are on the merry go round whilst everyone else is standing outside watching them get taken for a ride.

[walrus]

This left-wing Obama Comey Clinton Department of Justice FBI collusion Saul Alinsky reversed siop on Trump is just the tip of the iceberg and before it is over there will be some assassinations at the top level and I mean literally which will tear this country apart. Are you ready for Civil War?

Left wing means n*gger lovers. Liberals means n*gger lovers. Just talk proper. Instead of talking in code.

Seriously even though he can be a complete prick Brockton is not a racist. Left Wing in America is almost center ground politics here in the UK. It is why even mentioning the word social as in 'Social Justice' 'Socialist' etc gets you labelled immediately as a communist. Most of Europe finds this to be quite hilarious. Like Thatcher the right in the USA seems not to believe in Society either.

The Alinsky rubbish is surprising from someone as intelligent as Brockton but is a common accusation from those on the right in America (the far right everywhere else). Many politicians and community organisers for all ends of the political spectrum use Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. It is the utilization of rule 5 that got Donald 'Deep State' Trump elected and still there are many Alinsky rules by which he runs everything now.


Rule 5. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon - This is what Trump does. He hates it when the same rule is mirrored back at him but it is his guiding principle. It also seems to be Lyle, Walrus and Brocktons favourite tactic here on the forum. It proves that Trump is not an outsider at all.

Rule 13 - Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. This again is a central method employed in American politics and sadly something being adopted here in Europe recently. No middle ground, no reasoning, no common ground, no consensus, Polarize. My way or the high way. Trump's shit doesn't stink, everyone else is a vile piece of human garbage ruled by Satan or some daft rubbish. Again employed by his sheep like followers here on the forum.

Rule 6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. 'Build the wall, build the wall' 'Throw them out' 'Fake news' etc . This again is what swept Trump to power no different to Hilary in the middle on the left or the previous Republicans on the right. It proves that surprisingly he is much more of a devoted disciple of Alinsky than Obama who while adoptding rule one, questioned the others.

I could go on but the point is even the Tea Party used Alinsky just as Trump is in creating division because they believe just like Alinsky that the end justifies any means. They hate the idea that there privilege is threatened and so have doubled down in an insane display of self hypnotizing in which an establishment reality TV star with vast inherited wealth and multiple bankruptcies is now in their minds transformed into some kind of genius outsider who has to fight the establishment. He has spent his life swimming in the same swamp but they refuse to admit it now they have nailed their colours to the mast.


Most people can see how full of shit both sides are. They think that they and Trump are one of those people, but actually they are on the merry go round whilst everyone else is standing outside watching them get taken for a ride.

That’s it, when did I accuse you of attacking anyone’s weapon since our truce and @bff I want it notated I did not break the truce, I went above and beyond but beanz couldn’t resist lumping me in with two obviously confused people, especially Lyle

[brocktonblockbust]

1. Walrus is correct that beanz has now broken the #BFF truce between those two individuals

2. BEANZ is correct that I am not a racist

3. BEANZ is correct that I am intellectual

4. BEANZ failed to mention that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are the main champions of Saul alinsky's nonsense siop reverse psyop crapola

5. Beans is also wrongly attributing that the Trump. It was the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC that colluded with Russia to make the fake dossier and then using Saul Alinsky philosophy they blamed Trump for colluding with Russia @Beanz surely you see that?

6. Beanz's last post was well written respectful well thought-out objective and a very nice interaction