Acid attack facts

[Batman]

Gang violence is a big part of British Culture, has been for hundreds of years, despite people pretending it is a recent invention of Black British males. There is no logical excuse for using any kind of weapon to main, disfigure or kill someone but it seems in the UK acid (usually household bleach , cleaning or gardening products) is used because it is easy to walk in to any shop and buy. When it is used by Asians or Muslims or controlling ex jealous boyfriends and husbands to disfigure their partners then that adds a whole level of fucked upness to it.

I would caution against taking any one opinion of London as an indication of much. Particularly of someone just visiting. My brother and his wife live and work there as do a few friends and at least a handful of posters on here. I travel up at least a few times a year to work and don't fell anymore threatened now than I ever have. It is a big city with crime but also a hell of a lot of positives too. I am not going to let a minority of scum stop me enjoying that.

They are trying to legislate to make it harder for youths to buy acid but the problem is much more societal than that. Huge cuts in Policing and Community services along with the general alienation and lack of empathy among many groups of young people is a tinder box that was always going to ignite.

Hmm. It seems you are making a little bit of progress. Now who carries out most of the acid attacks? It is young black men. Now which section of society is most likely to be lacking a father figure? Yes, it is young black men. You see the same pattern in America and crime, it is not a racist society at fault it is generally speaking broken families and the ensuing chaos that results from that. You touch on it, but hold back. That is not surprising.

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[Beanz]

Gang violence is a big part of British Culture, has been for hundreds of years, despite people pretending it is a recent invention of Black British males. There is no logical excuse for using any kind of weapon to main, disfigure or kill someone but it seems in the UK acid (usually household bleach , cleaning or gardening products) is used because it is easy to walk in to any shop and buy. When it is used by Asians or Muslims or controlling ex jealous boyfriends and husbands to disfigure their partners then that adds a whole level of fucked upness to it.

I would caution against taking any one opinion of London as an indication of much. Particularly of someone just visiting. My brother and his wife live and work there as do a few friends and at least a handful of posters on here. I travel up at least a few times a year to work and don't fell anymore threatened now than I ever have. It is a big city with crime but also a hell of a lot of positives too. I am not going to let a minority of scum stop me enjoying that.

They are trying to legislate to make it harder for youths to buy acid but the problem is much more societal than that. Huge cuts in Policing and Community services along with the general alienation and lack of empathy among many groups of young people is a tinder box that was always going to ignite.

Hmm. It seems you are making a little bit of progress. Now who carries out most of the acid attacks? It is young black men. Now which section of society is most likely to be lacking a father figure? Yes, it is young black men. You see the same pattern in America and crime, it is not a racist society at fault it is generally speaking broken families and the ensuing chaos that results from that. You touch on it, but hold back. That is not surprising.

This is true

No it isn't. Not really.

[Gandalf]

Gang violence is a big part of British Culture, has been for hundreds of years, despite people pretending it is a recent invention of Black British males. There is no logical excuse for using any kind of weapon to main, disfigure or kill someone but it seems in the UK acid (usually household bleach , cleaning or gardening products) is used because it is easy to walk in to any shop and buy. When it is used by Asians or Muslims or controlling ex jealous boyfriends and husbands to disfigure their partners then that adds a whole level of fucked upness to it.

I would caution against taking any one opinion of London as an indication of much. Particularly of someone just visiting. My brother and his wife live and work there as do a few friends and at least a handful of posters on here. I travel up at least a few times a year to work and don't fell anymore threatened now than I ever have. It is a big city with crime but also a hell of a lot of positives too. I am not going to let a minority of scum stop me enjoying that.

They are trying to legislate to make it harder for youths to buy acid but the problem is much more societal than that. Huge cuts in Policing and Community services along with the general alienation and lack of empathy among many groups of young people is a tinder box that was always going to ignite.

Hmm. It seems you are making a little bit of progress. Now who carries out most of the acid attacks? It is young black men. Now which section of society is most likely to be lacking a father figure? Yes, it is young black men. You see the same pattern in America and crime, it is not a racist society at fault it is generally speaking broken families and the ensuing chaos that results from that. You touch on it, but hold back. That is not surprising.

This is true

No it isn't. Not really.

Because you know everything, don't you?

Children from broken homes are statistically considerably more likely to end up repeating the patterns they see growing up meaning more drugs, gangs, broken families, etc. You touched on it in your own post and the part I highlighted above correlates directly with what I am currently reading. I am impressed that you went there. There is a growing alienation and a growing lack of empathy and this is a trait of perhaps one of the most disturbing personality disorders. You hate to admit it but broken families lead to a greater likelihood of violence and criminality and this appears to be quite an obvious thing to point out. Who is more likely to grow up in a broken family? Who is more likely to end up in prison? The Marxist in you will likely try to blame it on Tories and wealth, but people have been poor in the past without using acid as a weapon. The broken family structure is significant and this is one of the most unfortunate aspects of modern Britain.

[Gandalf]

Broken families is only one aspect of course. I think it fair to say that kids today spend less time with their parents/parent than ever before. Even if the family isn't broken, you need two incomes to stay ahead and especially in London and that means kids are send to daycare, they are left at home on their own, they are neglected. Then when families break up they are abandoned. Then when they are left with a mother on welfare the mother is all too often mentally unwell and ill equipped to be a mother and if she is working then she will barely have time for the kid anyway. Either way it leads to maladjustment. Now many of course are doing the best they can and in difficult circumstances, but many are not and have lived their lives without setting a good example to their kids. It leads to societal breakdown. More police is not going to stop angry young people from throwing acid at people. More police is not going to stop mentally ill people from acting up and joining gangs. More police is not going to stop people choosing poor partners who won't stick around and be a Dad. This is very unfortunate, but it starts by choosing a good partner and raising your child properly so that he is not angry, alienated, and lacking in empathy. Some of it might be genetic meaning a defective parent, but the rest is societal and that means kids need good parental role models. They don't really have that a lot of the time. You certainly see this in the black community in the US and unfortunately the UK has the same issues when it comes to strong black families. Kids play up without a stable family structure. Kids can play up with one too, but it is more likely when it is lacking.

[Beanz]

Change the record Miles. The dark shadow of Eugenics looms large over your post. You think you are being intellectually brave, going where others dare not, whilst in reality you are just repeating the mad rantings of a sociopath. Your posting gives the impression that you have had an empathy bypass yourself.

You don't seem to be able to shake the baggage of your own deeply ingrained prejudice and fear of immigrants, black people and the disabled. It taints everything you post so you are not starting from a point of open mindedness at all. No wonder you come to the same conclusions.

It is why despite the overwhelming majority of acid attacks being carried out by British born people you insisted on blaming it on immigrants. Maybe you see all black Brits as migrants, who knows, most of your posting is borderline NF so it would surprise nobody.

Everything for you is the fault of 'the left' or immigration. It is why nobody can take you seriously here.

[Beanz]

'Some of it might be genetic meaning a defective parent'.... Care to explain this nugget?

[Beanz]

And this proves their is no reason or objectivity in your post at all. Nobody can win. All parents will fail their kids, whatever they do. The most revealing bit is how whatever happens its always the mothers fault. I think therapy for most people is not very helpful but you might want to think about it.

'need two incomes to stay ahead and especially in London and that means kids are send to daycare, they are left at home on their own, they are neglected. Then when families break up they are abandoned. Then when they are left with a mother on welfare the mother is all too often mentally unwell and ill equipped to be a mother and if she is working then she will barely have time for the kid anyway'

[Gandalf]

Oh dear. That is a rather unfortunate post, Beanz. I don't think you have read anything I said and you certainly made up a number of things there. Your post does not warrant a response. Eugenics? Utterly bizarre. Your own posting funnily enough fits exactly with the theme of a book I am reading. Like Walrus always says you never notice it. If you did you might be more self aware than you are, but you clearly aren't.

[Gandalf]

Okay, one response to that post as you asked nicely. I am saying that mental illness is a mixture of nature and nurture. There is a mental health epidemic. I will keep it as simple as that. Traits get passed down generically and they then frequently get passed on environmentally. Either way you end up with generational complications. The problem grows rather than diminishes. I am reading a fascinating book about it. It extrapolates well to describe serious mental health problems we have in society. 50% of all substance abusers have an underlying mental health condition. How many people abuse alcohol or drugs. It's a lot of people. I could go on, but it really moves away from acid attacks, but gangs are of course often made up of very messed up young people. Eugenics? FFS, you are weird saying things like that.

[Master]

How do you define a broken family?