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Re: Hall of Fame or the best that wont make it.
HMMMM.....I know I can think of a buch of ex champions...just depends on how good you want to say they were....
Keith Holmes....
Angel Manfreddy.....
John Ruiz......
Oleg Maskaev...
Zab Judah....( when you think about it what has he really done?)....
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Well Manfredy could have. And Maskaev, Judah and Holmes can still make a legacy(Holmes did ok this last weekend)Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Well Manfredy could have. And Maskaev, Judah and Holmes can still make a legacy(Holmes did ok this last weekend)
It's possible there is time....I was judging on the basis if the voting was now...I thought thats what we were doing...Yeah but Judah would have stellar fights up until the day of the ceremony and do something to screw it up....He couldn't help himself
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You're so right... Judah is great... He could be "a great" if he got himself correct!! He is his own worst enemy(In the ring and in his head) I am not a Zab fan but I will say that his skillls speak for themselves. He has speed, footwork, power(at times)... Sad part is, he could be the whole package if he was straight... But his ego gets i the way... I don't like Zab but as a boxing fan I think with a few more good showings he should be there...Well Manfredy could have. And Maskaev, Judah and Holmes can still make a legacy(Holmes did ok this last weekend)
It's possible there is time....I was judging on the basis if the voting was now...I thought thats what we were doing
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So would that make him a 'kindergarten' middleweight champ, rather than a 'junior' one?
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You're so right... Judah is great... He could be "a great" if he got himself correct!! He is his own worst enemy(In the ring and in his head) I am not a Zab fan but I will say that his skillls speak for themselves. He has speed, footwork, power(at times)... Sad part is, he could be the whole package if he was straight... But his ego gets i the way... I don't like Zab but as a boxing fan I think with a few more good showings he should be there...Well Manfredy could have. And Maskaev, Judah and Holmes can still make a legacy(Holmes did ok this last weekend)
It's possible there is time....I was judging on the basis if the voting was now...I thought thats what we were doing
I once was a fan of Judahs.....Up until the Tszyu fight....There was nothing wrong with losing to Kostya he was a veteran that had been in there a whil....At that point maybe the best 140lb fighter to date (I said maybe for a reason it is usually between him and two others depending on who's list)...Judah should have taken it as a learning experience.....Then the Spinks loss...Baldo...all due to Zab's mental shortcomings...Champions win and champions lose...it's how you act that makes it important
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That makes PBF look great then because he dominated Judah, had nothing to do with mental short comings it just had to do with PBF being a superior boxer, and if people think Judah should go to the Hall of Fame then they can no longer say PBF has not fought anybody recently.You're so right... Judah is great... He could be "a great" if he got himself correct!! He is his own worst enemy(In the ring and in his head) I am not a Zab fan but I will say that his skillls speak for themselves. He has speed, footwork, power(at times)... Sad part is, he could be the whole package if he was straight... But his ego gets i the way... I don't like Zab but as a boxing fan I think with a few more good showings he should be there...Well Manfredy could have. And Maskaev, Judah and Holmes can still make a legacy(Holmes did ok this last weekend)
It's possible there is time....I was judging on the basis if the voting was now...I thought thats what we were doing
I once was a fan of Judahs.....Up until the Tszyu fight....There was nothing wrong with losing to Kostya he was a veteran that had been in there a whil....At that point maybe the best 140lb fighter to date (I said maybe for a reason it is usually between him and two others depending on who's list)...Judah should have taken it as a learning experience.....Then the Spinks loss...Baldo...all due to Zab's mental shortcomings...Champions win and champions lose...it's how you act that makes it important
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Listen here you bloody scallawagon, if that the case Hopkins, Tyson, and Toney won't make it either.Paq won't he's too ugly.
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That's fine with me.Listen here you bloody scallawagon, if that the case Hopkins, Tyson, and Toney won't make it either.Paq won't he's too ugly.
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