Boris Burka Row - To BAN or not to BAN? Islamophobia?

[Beanz]

Beanz I'm conflicted on it

A great honest answer. I agree as you will see in my first reply to Fenster. That is the crux of nearly all my disagreements with posters here. The insistence on maintaining the illusion that answers are so simplistic. This polarity, extreme left and and right, is stupid and seems to be in part imported from American culture. I can see why in such a diverse country as yours an illusion like this would help people feel more safe and certain.

Don't get me wrong it has always been here in the UK but its crazy now. Us and them. The have and have nots. That is why religious extremists get away unchallenged because people focus on groups and lose sight of individuals.

People don't want to imagine they might have anything in common with someone who on the surface seems so different and so they make people out to be cardboard cutouts, groups, ciphers.

That is what bigoted Muslims do when they treat non muslims as infidels and what bigoted British do when they refuse to even recognise British born Muslims who join the army and are willing to die for this country.

[El Kabong]

Beanz I'm conflicted on it

A great honest answer. I agree as you will see in my first reply to Fenster. That is the crux of nearly all my disagreements with posters here. The insistence on maintaining the illusion that answers are so simplistic. This polarity, extreme left and and right, is stupid and seems to be in part imported from American culture. I can see why in such a diverse country as yours an illusion like this would help people feel more safe and certain.

Don't get me wrong it has always been here in the UK but its crazy now. Us and them. The have and have nots. That is why religious extremists get away unchallenged because people focus on groups and lose sight of individuals.

People don't want to imagine they might have anything in common with someone who on the surface seems so different and so they make people out to be cardboard cutouts, groups, ciphers.

That is what bigoted Muslims do when they treat non muslims as infidels and what bigoted British do when they refuse to even recognise British born Muslims who join the army and are willing to die for this country.

Unless it's bitterly cold out, or Halloween, why would you need a complete or even partial facial covering?


Oh it's a religious thing? Like I'm going to trust ANYONE who can't keep their dick in their pants because he saw a bit of female skin.....NO. No sir. I'm not going to trust the men and I'm not going to trust the women.

[Beanz]

Beanz I'm conflicted on it

A great honest answer. I agree as you will see in my first reply to Fenster. That is the crux of nearly all my disagreements with posters here. The insistence on maintaining the illusion that answers are so simplistic. This polarity, extreme left and and right, is stupid and seems to be in part imported from American culture. I can see why in such a diverse country as yours an illusion like this would help people feel more safe and certain.

Don't get me wrong it has always been here in the UK but its crazy now. Us and them. The have and have nots. That is why religious extremists get away unchallenged because people focus on groups and lose sight of individuals.

People don't want to imagine they might have anything in common with someone who on the surface seems so different and so they make people out to be cardboard cutouts, groups, ciphers.

That is what bigoted Muslims do when they treat non muslims as infidels and what bigoted British do when they refuse to even recognise British born Muslims who join the army and are willing to die for this country.

Unless it's bitterly cold out, or Halloween, why would you need a complete or even partial facial covering?


Oh it's a religious thing? Like I'm going to trust ANYONE who can't keep their dick in their pants because he saw a bit of female skin.....NO. No sir. I'm not going to trust the men and I'm not going to trust the women.

And yet you have no problem with people wearing Nazi Uniforms and Saluting Hitler on American Soil? You were very eager to defend their right to wear anything.

How about this fetching number?





or this one



or this



or in white

[Beanz]

‘You don’t know what’s under a burka’ insists EDL member wandering around in a balaclava




An EDL member has stated that the burka is dangerous because you can’t see who is under it, despite attending every EDL rally in a balaclava.
John Bullington, known to his friends as Big John, posted a rant on Facebook yesterday about how burkas are a clearly a cover for evilness.
He wrote, “You just don’t know what’s under a burka. It could be a bomb, a jihadi army, a tank, you just don’t know.
“You have to take a balaclava off if you want to go into a bank, but not a bloody burka. I’ve not been able to rob any banks in ages.
“Once again it’s one rule for the immigrants and another rule for nice white people like me. I don’t see what’s so difficult to understand about this. Anything covering your face is an affront to the British way of life – except when I do it.”
Despite a comment underneath his post pointing out that the burka isn’t seen as an aggressive piece of clothing and is also part of a religion, Bullington replied, “That’s complete crap and you know it!
“A balaclava can be part of a religion if you want it to be. And as for it being aggressive, when has anyone wearing a balaclava ever done anything bad? And don’t link to anything in the mainstream media, they’re all fake news these days.
“If they want to stay here, Muslim women need to stop wearing inappropriate stuff like headscarves and dress like proper westerners.
“Like nuns or something.”


http://newsthump.com/2017/04/24/you-...n-a-balaclava/

[El Kabong]

And yet you have no problem with people wearing Nazi Uniforms and Saluting Hitler on American Soil? You were very eager to defend their right to wear anything.

How about this fetching number?





or this one



or this



or in white

A Nazi uniform doesn't come with a mask. Saluting Hitler doesn't come with a mask. They can say whatever they like, they can dress how they like, so long as they don't have masks.


All of those masks are unacceptable....feel like a tit now?

[Master]

Why should Beanz feel a tit? What about the true tit John Bullington that Beanz just quoted?

[El Kabong]

Why should Beanz feel a tit? What about the true tit John Bullington that Beanz just quoted?

The two aren't mutually exclusive Master

[Beanz]

And yet you have no problem with people wearing Nazi Uniforms and Saluting Hitler on American Soil? You were very eager to defend their right to wear anything.

How about this fetching number?





or this one



or this



or in white

A Nazi uniform doesn't come with a mask. Saluting Hitler doesn't come with a mask. They can say whatever they like, they can dress how they like, so long as they don't have masks.


All of those masks are unacceptable....feel like a tit now?

No Fucking hell Lyle. Must try harder. You can wear a balaclava in the UK. When you ride a motorbike you often put one on under your helmet. When it is snowing you might wear one. Despite the IRA and bank robbers also wearing them. You can be asked to remove them at garages and banks etc just like people can ask people to remove their Burqka head covering for a good reason. You can't ban them though. Just like you can't ban clown masks or Halloween masks or tell cosplayers take off the Batman mask and costume because I don't trust you.

You sound like an extremist mate.

[El Kabong]

No Fucking hell Lyle. Must try harder. You can wear a balaclava in the UK. When you ride a motorbike you often put one on under your helmet. When it is snowing you might wear one. Despite the IRA and bank robbers also wearing them. You can be asked to remove them at garages and banks etc just like people can ask people to remove their Burqka head covering for a good reason. You can't ban them though. Just like you can't ban clown masks or Halloween masks or tell cosplayers take off the Batman mask and costume because I don't trust you.

You sound like an extremist mate.

Oh so you don't read my posts all that thoroughly do you?

Unless it's bitterly cold out, or Halloween, why would you need a complete or even partial facial covering?

Have you ever asked someone to remove their burqa?
Clowns don't wear "masks" they wear face paint.
Halloween masks on Halloween is fine as I've said before.
Cosplay folk can wear their shit if there's some sort of special event....that being the case I would be ok with these women should they want to wear the niqab or burqa in the mosque but out in the street every single day? Nope.


I don't mind the other ways of dress....why is it necessity to cover the entire face? If it was meant to honor the woman why is it head to toe black polyester in the fucking desert? It's oppressive.

[Beanz]

Lyle I don't like the Burqka anymore than you but I am not the one telling people what they can and cannot wear. I believe in freedom of expression and liberty. You obviously don't. I have not asked anyone to remove their Burqka because i do not work in a bank or 24 hr garage.

I can assure you i read every word of every post I reply to. I literally cannot bring myself to skim read stuff. That would be disrespectful and against my nature.