Boris Burka Row - To BAN or not to BAN? Islamophobia?

[Gandalf]

Hitchens warned us ages ago

Hitchens was such a loss to the world, I still often watch his videos on YouTube, I love his unwavering stance on religion even when he was dying, his debates were always so dignified as well, I remember when he was I the final stages of the cancer that was killing him and the bloke he was debating said "I promise you one thing Christopher...I won't prey for you" all in good humour

Hitchens was a cunt.

I like some of what Hitchens said, other stuff less keen. He was right about Islam and you see a case in point in this thread.

You are not allowed to offend a certain group of people regardless and it doesn't matter what they say or what they do, you are not permitted to do that. Thus the UK is becoming progressively more and more Islamised, but of course not only Islam, but many groups whose own countries deny reciprocal rights and freedoms to people in the countries their people are going to. Notice how it is Master who seems overtly concerned about the rights of Muslims. His concern is far less about the tradition and culture of Britain and that is understandable considering his household growing up was not a traditional British one, but that is what happens generation by generation. Master is a nice man, but he inevitably is drawn to defending other cultures rather than traditional British cultures. The same applies to Beanz who impersonates being English, but likewise has no British roots. To these two anyone defending traditional British culture or being against open borders etc is a racist, a bigot, and a threat to them and what they want to continue.

Hitchens lost me with his support for the Iraq war. Unlike me, who gets accused in this thread of following the alt right, which I of course do not, Hitchens did appear to support the neo-cons. I have never supported such groups. I will listen to Paul Joseph Watson, but at the same time read The Canary for instance. I am reading and listening all over the place, when I do bother paying attention that is as it really isn't a high priority of mine. In saying that people do adapt and change and anyone who doesn't is either dead or a die hard ideologue and neither of those is a healthy condition. I will say what I think is positive about Trump when I think it is positive and negative when it is negative. Those chaps will not do the same, it will only be negative and likewise you see this obsession with Russia which appears to be parroted from their daily propaganda.

So, for me Hitchens had his pros and cons like most people do really.