Sanctiong body madness with Char and Bryan

[powerpuncher]

As I’ve said before, I honestly don’t really pay attention to belts. The only reason I’ll bring them up is as an excuse to unify because a good fight can be made. I couldn’t care less about the actual belts. That’s also why all of these title defenses and multi weight champions are all a joke. It was much harder to be Joe Louis with 25 defenses with one title than it is now where you can start defending your belt long before you are even the best in the division.

[holmcall]

As I’ve said before, I honestly don’t really pay attention to belts. The only reason I’ll bring them up is as an excuse to unify because a good fight can be made. I couldn’t care less about the actual belts. That’s also why all of these title defenses and multi weight champions are all a joke. It was much harder to be Joe Louis with 25 defenses with one title than it is now where you can start defending your belt long before you are even the best in the division.

Smart approach. Just ignored them.

[Alpha]

As I’ve said before, I honestly don’t really pay attention to belts. The only reason I’ll bring them up is as an excuse to unify because a good fight can be made. I couldn’t care less about the actual belts. That’s also why all of these title defenses and multi weight champions are all a joke. It was much harder to be Joe Louis with 25 defenses with one title than it is now where you can start defending your belt long before you are even the best in the division.

I think most of us feel the same way.

But what's the solution? All 4 belts to unify? Before it was 3. Next it'll be 5, then 6. Then you get fans that sh-t on a guy like Crawford who unified all four but think his record is weak. No one else did it at that time. If it's so easy everyone would do it.

I like the idea of 1 vs 2 to fill a vacant championship. But then you get those that will argue who decides who 1 and 2 are.

I think if the overwhelming majority consider the fight to be between 1 and 2 it should qualify. With the sanctioning bodies creating new titles/ championships and stripping an active champions, unifying all belts (how many could be considered in say 10 years to unify) the belts/ bodies are diluting themselves and their relevance.

[Spicoli]

Bottom line with trinkets is quality over quantity for me. Who'd you beat for what you're wearing. I think some big 'stars' now have it in their mind that it's a game of collection. They can actually benefit from status in the hunt, do less in respected division than a long ranked top 5-10 guy who may have competed with far better competition. Name and a trinket in a lower division will let you walk right into higher division for a shot right off. Basically a door prize. Adrien Broner is considered making 'history' because he is a 4 division champ. Can anyone even name who he beat for just 1 or 2 of them. And to think he's still thought of as a guy who hasn't won his big fights. It's a racket.

the wba might as well be picking bingo balls from a big spinner to decide the rankings now.

[powerpuncher]

As I’ve said before, I honestly don’t really pay attention to belts. The only reason I’ll bring them up is as an excuse to unify because a good fight can be made. I couldn’t care less about the actual belts. That’s also why all of these title defenses and multi weight champions are all a joke. It was much harder to be Joe Louis with 25 defenses with one title than it is now where you can start defending your belt long before you are even the best in the division.

I think most of us feel the same way.

But what's the solution? All 4 belts to unify? Before it was 3. Next it'll be 5, then 6. Then you get fans that sh-t on a guy like Crawford who unified all four but think his record is weak. No one else did it at that time. If it's so easy everyone would do it.

I like the idea of 1 vs 2 to fill a vacant championship. But then you get those that will argue who decides who 1 and 2 are.

I think if the overwhelming majority consider the fight to be between 1 and 2 it should qualify. With the sanctioning bodies creating new titles/ championships and stripping an active champions, unifying all belts (how many could be considered in say 10 years to unify) the belts/ bodies are diluting themselves and their relevance.

It’s like you said, fringe contenders want belts and are willing to pay the sanctioning fees to be considered a champion. I honestly don’t know what we as fans can do to change it other than not pay attention to belts and just call for the best fights. The fighters have to not want the belts either

[Alpha]

As I’ve said before, I honestly don’t really pay attention to belts. The only reason I’ll bring them up is as an excuse to unify because a good fight can be made. I couldn’t care less about the actual belts. That’s also why all of these title defenses and multi weight champions are all a joke. It was much harder to be Joe Louis with 25 defenses with one title than it is now where you can start defending your belt long before you are even the best in the division.

I think most of us feel the same way.

But what's the solution? All 4 belts to unify? Before it was 3. Next it'll be 5, then 6. Then you get fans that sh-t on a guy like Crawford who unified all four but think his record is weak. No one else did it at that time. If it's so easy everyone would do it.

I like the idea of 1 vs 2 to fill a vacant championship. But then you get those that will argue who decides who 1 and 2 are.

I think if the overwhelming majority consider the fight to be between 1 and 2 it should qualify. With the sanctioning bodies creating new titles/ championships and stripping an active champions, unifying all belts (how many could be considered in say 10 years to unify) the belts/ bodies are diluting themselves and their relevance.

It’s like you said, fringe contenders want belts and are willing to pay the sanctioning fees to be considered a champion. I honestly don’t know what we as fans can do to change it other than not pay attention to belts and just call for the best fights. The fighters have to not want the belts either

Yea the best fighting the best.

I remember posting something in one of the WBSS threads, about it catching on and getting some sort of prestige.

[ykdadamaja]

The WBA is a bigger joke than any sanctioning body in sports. The WBO used to be a joke with there 10 win champions. But the WBA is just ridiculous.

[palmerq]

The interim belt is the one that makes sense to me... Well compared to the fake wba belt, although I think technically charr actually holds the real wba belt even though it isn't :S... Pretty sure wladimir beat haye for the wba belt then they elevated wladimir to super champ and vacated the actual belt :S...... Just super weird to have two champions though in the same organization but the fans are just as bad sometimes, you see posts here referring to golovkins title defences that are counting the minor wba belt and so on...

Anyway I think an interim champion is good thing to have its clearly not the real belt and when used right it makes sense... Like when the actual champ is a serial dodger or badly injured and the number one contender has been waiting for a long time.. How that relates to trvor bryan and bj(maybe that helped) Flores is a mystery to me.... Bizzare

[Alpha]

The interim belt is the one that makes sense to me... Well compared to the fake wba belt, although I think technically charr actually holds the real wba belt even though it isn't :S... Pretty sure wladimir beat haye for the wba belt then they elevated wladimir to super champ and vacated the actual belt :S...... Just super weird to have two champions though in the same organization but the fans are just as bad sometimes, you see posts here referring to golovkins title defences that are counting the minor wba belt and so on...

Anyway I think an interim champion is good thing to have its clearly not the real belt and when used right it makes sense... Like when the actual champ is a serial dodger or badly injured and the number one contender has been waiting for a long time.. How that relates to trvor bryan and bj(maybe that helped) Flores is a mystery to me.... Bizzare

Yea the interim idea on paper is decent, as is emeritus but they never follow their own rules, so it becomes just another feeing grabbing scheme. There is no need to establish an interim or regular champion, when the current champ is active, Tank Davis' title for example.