Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next

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Thats your opinion. I don't think thats so

Name some other reasons why you would PRICE YOURSELF OUT?

And looking at his career right now I wouldn't say he's made bad choices would you?

Certainlty not. Ducking Calzaghe was a wise move.

Something Joe has never done but I'll get to my point in a minute

Hang on. What do you mean something Joe has never done? Duck anyone? I make you right.

Ok here's my point. Warren COULD have said yes to Hopkins and then we'd have a fight. And there would be a fight. So even if Hopkins made it pricy he would have fought Calzaghe if 'yes' was said. Is that correct?

err righto Gus. You clearly haven't got a clue how the boxing buisness works. Hey Ive got some cheap sea front property in Birmingham for sale if you're interested?

And stop me if I'm wrong here, but is that the ONLY time that Calzaghe ever tried to make a fight with Hopkins?

Stop. Look at the title of the thread. Heres some more for ya http://sport.guardian.co.uk/boxing/s...003211,00.html

Why didn't he do it anytime afterwards?

err he did Gus, look up.

And say something other then "because Hopkins would price himself out again

When did he say this Gus?

And you make comparisons on how much money Hopkins made with the turned down offer, how many did Joe make? And who did he fight after that?

He fought people that didn't duck him.

My point is that after that, Hopkins made better choices and made more money then Calzaghe, who if he is so enameured in his own porential legacy he would have tried to make those same decisions as well.

Exactly! If he didn't duck Calzaghe he wouldn't of made that lovely easy Oscar money. Why do you think Calzaghe has been chasing Hopkins?

Am I right?

About Hopkins making more money through ducking Cazlaghe, for sure Gus.

So the flak Joe takes for not fighting the best I'm not very convinced that Hopkins ducked him in any way, and I don't see Joe trying to fight anyone else "great" around that time, do you? He said he'd gladly come to the states to fight hopkins ok. This fight falls through, Hopkisn goes on his legacy. Why didn't Calzaghe COME to the states and make a name for himself and some noise to actually bring attention to him calling out Hopkins? Make it a popular fight where the media is actually clamoring for it. Because of that ONE article you found it doesn't convince me in the least that anyoen would have payed much attention to it over here. The jury was still out on Calzaghe until that Lacy victory and Calzaghe could have gotten that recognition if he had fought fighters to make a name for himself over here. Like I said..if he was so desperate for the fight then after that fall through why didn't he come to the states and make some noise to marit a fight with him and Hopkins? Why did he stay overseas and only make noise there? How many times was he on Showtime after that? How many times was Hopkins on HBO? Who was seen more by a world audience?

OK Just answer me this - What possible reason could there be for Hopkins to turn down a $3 million dollar career highest pay day - to fight a nobody like Calzaghe - and instead fight such illustrious names like Hakkar and Joppy for $300,000 DOLLARS!?!?!

Alright then, thats my point. If you don't understand something I'll help you.

Thanks Gus.

But I'm going to be getting a real look at Joe this Saturday so I can critique him

Good. Maybe you'll see why Hopkins ducked him.

Then I'll see how consistant he is

130-2 Amateur record, 41-0 longest reigning current world champion. I'd say he's pretty consistant