U. S. Navy in Persian Gulf will lead to World War 3

[brocktonblockbust]

I agree with Miles here. The United States went into Iran in the mid-1950s and did an evil Act when they took out Mossadegh.

That was an evil Act by an evil Nation.

Then the genius United States put in the Shah of Iran.

What an evil Act. Satanic an Unforgivable.

When the Iranian people rightfully rose up and overthrew the Shah, the United States rightfully reaped what it sewed

This is how stupid John McCain is I mean was. He was such a stupid ass that he ignored everything that I just wrote above.
How could dumb John McCain ignore what I wrote above? That's how dumb he was let alone that's how evil he was.

"Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran "

this was the song that John McCain used to sing to the beach boys hit Barbara Ann.

Then the United States wanted to cry like a little baby when the Islamic revolution took over and the Ayatollah Khomeini came into power and the puppet loser piece of garbage CIA operative Shah of Iran had to run out of Persia like a little coward and go with his family abroad and Hide in a little skunk hole

Next year will be 40 years since the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran.

Persia has been around for at least 2,800 (two thousand eight hundred) years of recorded history.

Yyyyyyyeah, the United States has been about 242 years

[El Kabong]

Unfortunately, you do not seem to have remembered Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, or even Syria today, Lyle. Sure, the US can try and do what it likes, but whether it meets its objectives is another thing entirely. The Vietnam war was a failure. The results of Afghanistan today say that this was a failure. Iraq based on lies no doubt a failure. Syria and the arming of ahem moderate rebels also a failure. Now, you can potentially start another war, but don't be too arrogant. And be very careful about the chain of motion it might set about unleashing. You have been lucky so far, but one day that hubris could crush you and wipe out humanity.

No I know all about them. I know politicians know how to fuck up a war, I know they know how to start a war as well. Vietnam was a clusterfuck and we can thank France and that lying sack of rat shit LBJ for getting us into that one. The Gulf of Tonkin incident is one of THE major False Flag operations of all time.

Afghanistan today? If the goal was "getting Bin Laden" (even though he was most likely killed in Tora Bora) then check that one off the list. The Taliban sucks for Afghans but they haven't really hurt us directly...heroin was certainly less of an issue prior to that invasion gee I wonder why?

Iraq was going to be invaded regardless of who won the 2000 election Bush or Gore (go back listen to the rhetoric on both sides) and regardless of 9/11...it was going to happen. The invasion of Iraq (initial invasion) was one of the best showings of military might in the history of the world. The HOLDING of Iraq was one of the dumbest, most illogical, fuck ups of all time. That said Trump came in office and he let General Mattis run the war and he's done an excellent job.

Syria (and Libya to an extent) are just as bad as how we got into Iraq. Malevolent forces in government got us in there, it wasn't in our national interests to get involved. Let's take a gander at exactly who is fighting in Syria on one side Assad & Russia on the other side I'm sure some decent people , but also ISIS and Al Qaeda...as an American citizen I'm comfortable letting that play out and us staying on the sidelines...but SOME of our politicians are asshats and want to get involved in everything, luckily Trump is fairly level headed in regards to getting into another conflict.


Iran is like North Korea, constantly saber rattling yet not doing too much, not much since the Lockerbie bombing which let's face it was a return shot for Iranian Air flight 655. The Iranian people have 0 beef with the US and the American people have 0 beef with the Iranian people...the Mullahs and our Government don't like each other which stems back to the 50's when England got us involved in Iran and said "They'll turn Commie if you don't keep the Shah in power" apparently because the Brits were too fearful of reprisal to do it themselves or they needed our help.

When it comes down to brass tacks and the United States wants to lay all it's cards out on the table....0 nations, 0 people, 0....beat our military. We've got enough nukes to end the entire world just by our lonesome, we have more guns even citizens with guns than anyone else Isoroku Yamamoto once claimed that mainland America could not be invaded because "behind each blade of grass is an American with a gun" (illegal immigration seems to have proven Yamamoto wrong it seems).


Hubris indeed, I'd rather America sat on the sidelines and let shit just happen to other nations, they expect too much of us and take it for granted that we'll fix something.






@brocktonbockbust your disappointment with American politics is noted. Persia has indeed been around for a long time and it's been a long time since they produced anything of note. They've been around so long they decided to take their women back in time and cover them head to toe in bin bags....how progressive, perhaps you'd like that for American women?

[Freedom]

On land, China is already much more powerful than the USA, and they are catching up at sea and in the air.

With the western allies (UK, France, Canada, Australia) gradually becoming weaker due to Cultural Marxism, A Russia-China-Iran alliance is formidable enough to win a war. China has no problems of mass migration, there are no anti-Chinese (((media people))) and no Soros-funded far-left violence and rioting.

Always fighting with one hand behind their back with constant negativity and undermining from their own mainstream media, the US could not even decisively defeat Afghanistan and Vietnam.

[El Kabong]

On land, China is already much more powerful than the USA, and they are catching up at sea and in the air.

With the western allies (UK, France, Canada, Australia) gradually becoming weaker due to Cultural Marxism, A Russia-China-Iran alliance is formidable enough to win a war. China has no problems of mass migration, there are no anti-Chinese (((media people))) and no Soros-funded far-left violence and rioting.

Always fighting with one hand behind their back with constant negativity and undermining from their own mainstream media, the US could not even decisively defeat Afghanistan and Vietnam.

China had their chance in Korea they were SLAUGHTERED they sent troops into battle with 0 guns. They said "If you don't have a gun, just pick one up off a dead guy in front of you as you march towards certain doom"


Yeah Europe is cucking out big time can't argue against that.


We weren't allowed to give 100% effort in wars after Korea, the politicians didn't allow it. And if you know of Q then you likely know why that is.

[walrus]

http://armedforces.eu/compare/country_USA_vs_China

[Freedom]

http://armedforces.eu/compare/country_USA_vs_China

Active personnel: USA: 1,301,300 China: 2,300,000
Available for military: USA: 73,270,043 China: 385,821,101

China has more armored fighting vehicles (46,000 to 4,788) more artillery (9,726 to 3,269) more self-propelled artillery (1,710 to 950), more rocket artillery (1,770 to 1,197). And China has more tanks.

So China has a HUGE advantage on land.

On the oceans, China has more frigates (51 to 0), corvettes (32 to 0) and submarines (73 to 70). US has more destroyers (85 to 32).

USA still has the advantage in the air, with 12,100 aircraft to China's 3,729.
US has more multi-role aircraft: 2,062 to 567, more attack aircraft (470 to 300) and more helicopters (5,000 to 1,627).
But China has far more fighter aircraft, 1,199 to 388.

The one major advantage the USA has is having far more aircraft carriers. But with China having three times as many fighter aircraft, how long would it tale them to sink those carriers?

[Gandalf]

Korea was 70 years ago, Lyle. It's a very different world. Some nations are stronger whilst others are weaker. Sure you can destroy the world but that's a sad legacy and not a good indictment of humanity. Truth is Iran and NK have done nothing to you, but you have zero influence or control over your military so the wars keep happening. Meanwhile national debt is how much? The economy is doing great but the debt keeps growing? Andrew Jackson would think you have all lost your minds. A war isn't only conducted with bombs.

[El Kabong]

That right there is air superiority wherever we go

Besides that the Chinese have how much of our debt? You can't cash in if we're not around to pay.....so yeah yall sit down and have a good hard think about it and get back at me.

[walrus]

There is a big push in Congress right now to increase our military hardware in response to China’s doing so. One issue we face is as China brings new ships etc online our existing ones will be set for scrap.

[walrus]

China also shot a satellite with a missel from earth.