Can Fury actually beat Wilder?

[brocktonblockbust]

Is there any reason to believe that this fight is not on for December? Was it just rumors that it was not going to go on

[Alpha]

Is there any reason to believe that this fight is not on for December? Was it just rumors that it was not going to go on

They are only rumours at this stage, as for reasons to believe, the announcement is over a week late than was indicated (for a fight that both had already said its done), Fury has pulled out of fights previously. Fury could use another fight beforehand etc.

I'm hearing that it could take place on Nov-10 or Nov-17.

[TitoFan]

As the fight draws closer and seems to be a certainty at this point, it's worth revisiting the OP.


Putting my dislike of Fury and his style aside, I must admit there are certain scenarios where Fury could foreseeably pull off a win against Wilder. But having said that, I think people put too much stock into things like Wilder's lack of boxing skills versus Fury's "complete mastery" of boxing skills.

Fury has shown that he CAN be vulnerable to the right hand, as shown various times in the past. He tends to hold his hands low, a no-no against the bombs of Wilder. Maybe he'll be different against Wilder, but an old dog... new tricks.... that kind of deal. Meanwhile, Wilder gets all sorts of crap about his lack of boxing skills and true..... he's raw and unpolished. But it's not all about windmills every minute of every fight. People here talk like Wilder just came off the Tough Man tournaments in Alabama. He's shown some boxing skills in his fights. Granted, when he gets the first whiff of blood, he tends to lose control. But that doesn't mean he can't box worth a shit.

Also, of course Fury has to have SOME power. He IS a heavyweight after all, and a big one at that. But Wilder has been hit by harder punchers than Fury, and survived. That alone tells me chances are slim Fury would hurt Wilder bad enough to knock him out, unless Wilder just makes huge mistake after huge mistake. A one-punch knockout by Fury I think we can all agree ain't gonna happen. Wilder knows that, and thus will be less respectful of Fury. Fury might be able to frustrate Wilder in the ring, which is his only recourse because I seriously doubt he can play with Wilder's mind like he did with Wlad's. To frustrate Wilder, he's gonna have do some grappling, some fouling, some honest-to-goodness boxing, some pot-shotting..... in short....he's gonna have to turn in the performance of a lifetime.

Damn, after seeing one of the worst HW title fights ever (Fury-Wlad), followed by a pretty darn good one (AJ-Wlad)....... I just hope this is a good fight. Like I've said before, respect to Fury for taking the fight, and showing up Team Joshua in the process. Let Hearn sit on that one and simmer for awhile.

[Hulk]

As the fight draws closer and seems to be a certainty at this point, it's worth revisiting the OP.Putting my dislike of Fury and his style aside, I must admit there are certain scenarios where Fury could foreseeably pull off a win against Wilder. But having said that, I think people put too much stock into things like Wilder's lack of boxing skills versus Fury's "complete mastery" of boxing skills.Fury has shown that he CAN be vulnerable to the right hand, as shown various times in the past. He tends to hold his hands low, a no-no against the bombs of Wilder. Maybe he'll be different against Wilder, but an old dog... new tricks.... that kind of deal. Meanwhile, Wilder gets all sorts of crap about his lack of boxing skills and true..... he's raw and unpolished. But it's not all about windmills every minute of every fight. People here talk like Wilder just came off the Tough Man tournaments in Alabama. He's shown some boxing skills in his fights. Granted, when he gets the first whiff of blood, he tends to lose control. But that doesn't mean he can't box worth a shit.Also, of course Fury has to have SOME power. He IS a heavyweight after all, and a big one at that. But Wilder has been hit by harder punchers than Fury, and survived. That alone tells me chances are slim Fury would hurt Wilder bad enough to knock him out, unless Wilder just makes huge mistake after huge mistake. A one-punch knockout by Fury I think we can all agree ain't gonna happen. Wilder knows that, and thus will be less respectful of Fury. Fury might be able to frustrate Wilder in the ring, which is his only recourse because I seriously doubt he can play with Wilder's mind like he did with Wlad's. To frustrate Wilder, he's gonna have do some grappling, some fouling, some honest-to-goodness boxing, some pot-shotting..... in short....he's gonna have to turn in the performance of a lifetime.Damn, after seeing one of the worst HW title fights ever (Fury-Wlad), followed by a pretty darn good one (AJ-Wlad)....... I just hope this is a good fight. Like I've said before, respect to Fury for taking the fight, and showing up Team Joshua in the process. Let Hearn sit on that one and simmer for awhile.

Nice breakdown.Fury has earned my respect and admiration even to a degree for taking this fight.I’m a big Joshua fan, but Fury is making him look bad by taking this fight with no fuss.I’d give Fury a 20% or 25% chance of winning. His two comeback fights were against slobs who were nowhere near as dangerous as Wilder.

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Fury KO 5

[Alpha]

Fury has yet to apply for a license to box in New York or Nevada yet.

[Master]

Fury has yet to apply for a license to box in New York or Nevada yet.

That should not be a problem. They hand them out to blind fighters if they have to.

[ono]

As the fight draws closer and seems to be a certainty at this point, it's worth revisiting the OP.Putting my dislike of Fury and his style aside, I must admit there are certain scenarios where Fury could foreseeably pull off a win against Wilder. But having said that, I think people put too much stock into things like Wilder's lack of boxing skills versus Fury's "complete mastery" of boxing skills.Fury has shown that he CAN be vulnerable to the right hand, as shown various times in the past. He tends to hold his hands low, a no-no against the bombs of Wilder. Maybe he'll be different against Wilder, but an old dog... new tricks.... that kind of deal. Meanwhile, Wilder gets all sorts of crap about his lack of boxing skills and true..... he's raw and unpolished. But it's not all about windmills every minute of every fight. People here talk like Wilder just came off the Tough Man tournaments in Alabama. He's shown some boxing skills in his fights. Granted, when he gets the first whiff of blood, he tends to lose control. But that doesn't mean he can't box worth a shit.Also, of course Fury has to have SOME power. He IS a heavyweight after all, and a big one at that. But Wilder has been hit by harder punchers than Fury, and survived. That alone tells me chances are slim Fury would hurt Wilder bad enough to knock him out, unless Wilder just makes huge mistake after huge mistake. A one-punch knockout by Fury I think we can all agree ain't gonna happen. Wilder knows that, and thus will be less respectful of Fury. Fury might be able to frustrate Wilder in the ring, which is his only recourse because I seriously doubt he can play with Wilder's mind like he did with Wlad's. To frustrate Wilder, he's gonna have do some grappling, some fouling, some honest-to-goodness boxing, some pot-shotting..... in short....he's gonna have to turn in the performance of a lifetime.Damn, after seeing one of the worst HW title fights ever (Fury-Wlad), followed by a pretty darn good one (AJ-Wlad)....... I just hope this is a good fight. Like I've said before, respect to Fury for taking the fight, and showing up Team Joshua in the process. Let Hearn sit on that one and simmer for awhile.

Nice breakdown.Fury has earned my respect and admiration even to a degree for taking this fight.I’m a big Joshua fan, but Fury is making him look bad by taking this fight with no fuss.I’d give Fury a 20% or 25% chance of winning. His two comeback fights were against slobs who were nowhere near as dangerous as Wilder.

It's easy to take the fight with "no fuss" when you're not the champion and have very little leverage. That said, they have actually been negotiating since early June (Frank Warren confirmed this in his Boxing Social interview), so probably for around 10 weeks. I'd hardly call that "no fuss", particularly considering it's still not even agreed.

Agree with the breakdown of the fight though. Won't end pretty for Fury. But he will talk his way into a Joshua fight.

[sanatogen]

For Fury it's often about accumulation of damage as opposed to a single shot, getting into the opponents head and demoralising them.

Added to that Wilders small body which Fury is likely to pummel until Wilder struggles to move and throw those big bombs.

[brocktonblockbust]

For Fury it's often about accumulation of damage as opposed to a single shot, getting into the opponents head and demoralising them.

Added to that Wilders small body which Fury is likely to pummel until Wilder struggles to move and throw those big bombs.

Wilder is going to take so much punishment slowly and surely from the big giant man that buy V round he will be desperate and his he will be huffing and puffing from Shots big shots from the giant to the solar plexus and through the diaphragm then he will Crouch down like a bobcat the same way that I told Alpha and he will deliver an uppercut that will literally take off Deontay Wilder's head and send it into the third row behind the timekeeper at the Bell