Loma vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

[Fenster]

The fact everyone is talking about Loma's opposition instead of Mikey's sums it up. Fans know all about Loma's opposition whereas nobody is ever going to point to Lipinets or Easter or Zlat or even Salido and reel off who they beat, most fans know Salido through Loma and probably can't recall anything about the others.

You can downplay Linares but hardcore/nerds instantly think - three weight champion, no.1 lightweight, P4P, Ring champion, etc. Linares was a big star (in the boxing hardcore/nerd world) before he suffered his first shock loss.

Walters - no.1 featherweight, unbeaten, sparko puncher, stopped future hall of famer Donaire.

And this perfectly sums up the Rigo sentiment, it's a fight for the history books, regardless of the disappointing onesided outcome.

The buildup to the fight was huge, what with two two-time Olympic gold medal winners facing off. RJJ himself was quoted as hyperbolizing..... "To me, on paper, this is the best professional fight that has ever been made."

Mikey needs a Loma or Spence or Crawford to generate this type of feeling.

[Alpha]

Again the original argument was about Loma facing the best fighters in each division.

It has been pointed out who I think those guys were.

If you could provide the guys that you think were the best in the divisions that Loma beat it would help.

I'll even give you Linares. Even tho I don't think he was.

I think of myself as a hardcore fan, I can tell you exactly what Salido has done, I even mentioned some of it earlier.

[Fenster]

Again the original argument was about Loma facing the best fighters in each division.

It has been pointed out who I think those guys were.

If you could provide the guys that you think were the best in the divisions that Loma beat it would help.

I'll even give you Linares. Even tho I don't think he was.

I think of myself as a hardcore fan, I can tell you exactly what Salido has done, I even mentioned some of it earlier.

Mate, I didn't dispute anything about the original argument (which wasn't an argument). I merely stated Corrales or Uchiyama wouldn't have boosted Loma's record in any way with the "nitpickers," the same people moaning about him not fighting the best would be saying he ducked Rigo and Linares, etc.

We then moved on to best opposition overall - Mikey or Loma? This is what the conversation evolved into.

Salido did beat Loma. Mikey defeated Salido and also holds a win over Martinez, anther guy on Loma's record. I personally think Mikey's record is on par, if not better.

Salido, Zlaticanin, Broner, Lipnets and Easter also undefeated.

Vs

Russell Jr, Walters, Sosa, Rigo, Linares.

I believe the bottom rung of fighters are better than the top, regardless of circumstances, rankings, ratings and weightclasses.

Everyone who has entered the discussion since has spoke about Rigo, Donaire, Walters and Russel Jr, nobody is mentioning Mikey's opp. I think there's an obvious reason.

[Alpha]

Again the original argument was about Loma facing the best fighters in each division.

It has been pointed out who I think those guys were.

If you could provide the guys that you think were the best in the divisions that Loma beat it would help.

I'll even give you Linares. Even tho I don't think he was.

I think of myself as a hardcore fan, I can tell you exactly what Salido has done, I even mentioned some of it earlier.

Mate, I didn't dispute anything about the original argument (which wasn't an argument). I merely stated Corrales or Uchiyama wouldn't have boosted Loma's record in any way with the "nitpickers," the same people moaning about him not fighting the best would be saying he ducked Rigo and Linares, etc.

We then moved on to best opposition overall - Mikey or Loma? This is what the conversation evolved into.

Salido did beat Loma. Mikey defeated Salido and also holds a win over Martinez, anther guy on Loma's record. I personally think Mikey's record is on par, if not better.

Salido, Zlaticanin, Broner, Lipnets and Easter also undefeated.

Vs

Russell Jr, Walters, Sosa, Rigo, Linares.

I believe the bottom rung of fighters are better than the top, regardless of circumstances, rankings, ratings and weightclasses.

Everyone who has entered the discussion since has spoke about Rigo, Donaire, Walters and Russel Jr, nobody is mentioning Mikey's opp. I think there's an obvious reason.

I am more than happy to go through Mikey's record, I already posted some of it. You also said you thought he had better wins than the one I mentioned. So we could include those as well. I took up your dare to prove that Mikeys record is better. And I still think it is. Shouldn't it be on you to pick his record apart?

And again, Ron said Loma hadn't fought the best fighters in each division, and these guys have been mentioned.

You asked Who are the "best" fighters Loma has swerved in each division?

So again Mikey at 135, we may still get this fingers crossed. But they haven't fought.

Berchelt, Corrales/Machado at 130. Never fought.

I think either Salido or Gonzalez were the top 2 at 126. But he lost to Salido and never fought Gonzalez.