51 wins and only 32yrs old

[Master]

Julio Ceaser Chavez would fight the best and worst fighters in the world every few months as he was trying to get to that 100.

[Alpha]

The guy Wangek fought previously (who Moonsri also stopped about 3 years ago) was nothing special.

Iran Diaz however (although not elite) has only lost twice to good fighters and holds wins over Tyson Marquez and Luis Conception in his last 4 fights. He has done more than some others to get a shot.

[Master]

It shows up Floyd's "record" for what it really is for his fanboys, that it is a load of rubbish.

[TitoFan]

Julio Ceaser Chavez would fight the best and worst fighters in the world every few months as he was trying to get to that 100.

A guy making his professional debut for his 41st fight.

A 1-15 bum for his 50th fight.

A dude with a 0-1 record for his 66th fight.




Uhhhh............. yeah.

[Spicoli]

I don't have a problem with a guy having filler every few fights early on. Just don't expect them to be tv showcases. I think it's good for a guy to leave the stage every once in awhile and for promoters to stop passing blow outs off as proof of the next sensation. Every record has padding and 5-10-15 losses doesn't make you instant roadkill. I think also some fighters..especially lower weights..get dismissed because fans don't know their name. Wang is a good example of that, he obviously proved multiple kos over "Pro Debut" is a matter of a man just doing his work once he took the hill with Chocolatito twice and Estrada.


In fairness Thailand specifically makes it harder with fighters alternating their names every year .

[Fenster]

Seeing the various names used for the Thai in the boxing media i'm surprised I haven't seen a P4P list like this

1. Loma
2. Srisaket
3. Crawford
4. Sor Rungvisai
5. Wangek

[TIC]

chayaphon moonsri lost for the second time. panya pradabsri looks like the number one in the division. here's the fight for anyone who wants to watch. it was good

[Ron Swanson]

Julio Ceaser Chavez would fight the best and worst fighters in the world every few months as he was trying to get to that 100.

A guy making his professional debut for his 41st fight.

A 1-15 bum for his 50th fight.

A dude with a 0-1 record for his 66th fight.




Uhhhh............. yeah.

Should we do this with the Sugar Ray Robinson? He had 3 fights in a row against people making their debuts when he had 150+ fights. Those were not the only debuts on his record either, he also fought a few guys with 0 wins and many more with losing records. And he’s considered the greatest. I don’t think fighters should be judged for fighting bad fighters. But whether or not they fight good fighters. And both these guys mentioned did

[TitoFan]

Julio Ceaser Chavez would fight the best and worst fighters in the world every few months as he was trying to get to that 100.

A guy making his professional debut for his 41st fight.

A 1-15 bum for his 50th fight.

A dude with a 0-1 record for his 66th fight.




Uhhhh............. yeah.

Should we do this with the Sugar Ray Robinson? He had 3 fights in a row against people making their debuts when he had 150+ fights. Those were not the only debuts on his record either, he also fought a few guys with 0 wins and many more with losing records. And he’s considered the greatest. I don’t think fighters should be judged for fighting bad fighters. But whether or not they fight good fighters. And both these guys mentioned did

I honestly don't care who it is. There's guys out there that have fought nothing but good opposition their whole careers and as a result they stumble every now and then. I find this fascination with preserving the "0" at all costs, even if it means fighting absolute bums well into your career... ludicrous. SRR fought so often and so much he probably ran out of good fighters at some stretches. His "0" win scalps can be forgiven. I remember when JCC was chugging toward 100-0, and he wanted nothing standing in his way. That I don't respect too much.

Give me the Lomachenkos and Inoues of the world, even if they have 2-3 losses on their records, rather than the carefully crafted undefeated records bloated with debut opponents on 40th and 50th fights. It's ridiculous.

[TIC]

Julio Ceaser Chavez would fight the best and worst fighters in the world every few months as he was trying to get to that 100.

A guy making his professional debut for his 41st fight.

A 1-15 bum for his 50th fight.

A dude with a 0-1 record for his 66th fight.




Uhhhh............. yeah.

Should we do this with the Sugar Ray Robinson? He had 3 fights in a row against people making their debuts when he had 150+ fights. Those were not the only debuts on his record either, he also fought a few guys with 0 wins and many more with losing records. And he’s considered the greatest. I don’t think fighters should be judged for fighting bad fighters. But whether or not they fight good fighters. And both these guys mentioned did

most top fighters have a few bad opponents on their record. naoya's last opponent was far from deserving. maybe his last two. fighters should be judged on who & when they fought

[Primo Carnera]

Like everything, there are pros and cons . I don’t think this is a serious attempt to say that this guy is better in any way than Floyd, it’s just pointing something out.
In the guys favour,
1. It’s a fantastic record
2. Massive kudos to be able to stay at this weight for so many fights. Manny starting a tad heavier than this and ended up at LMW. which brings me to the next point
3. Not a whiff of PEDs.
4. Good mental strength to be able to be in top shape physically and mentally every fight, no bad days at the office.
Cons
1. By virtue of it being the Minimumweight, there are way less competitors
2. This means repeat fights and some with lesser experience/debutants

So in summary, the guy should be given massive respect for what he’s done and it is a moot point making any comparisons.Apples and Oranges.