Undisputed?

[Alpha]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

[powerpuncher]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

[Alpha]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

I disagree, it's because he fought and beat the best in the division. People were high on Gassiev until Usyk schooled him, Briedis is also another top guy. Other divisions the best aren't fighting each other, welter for example.

We should have a clearcut #1 at 118 after the WBSS tourney.

[powerpuncher]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

I disagree, it's because he fought and beat the best in the division. People were high on Gassiev until Usyk schooled him, Briedis is also another top guy. Other divisions the best aren't fighting each other, welter for example.

We should have a clearcut #1 at 118 after the WBSS tourney.

Wangek also fought the top guys and won but because he barely beat Estrada you are saying he isn’t the clear cut #1. So the question seems more to be who is head and shoulders above the rest of their division rather than the clear cut #1.

[Alpha]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

I disagree, it's because he fought and beat the best in the division. People were high on Gassiev until Usyk schooled him, Briedis is also another top guy. Other divisions the best aren't fighting each other, welter for example.

We should have a clearcut #1 at 118 after the WBSS tourney.

Wangek also fought the top guys and won but because he barely beat Estrada you are saying he isn’t the clear cut #1. So the question seems more to be who is head and shoulders above the rest of their division rather than the clear cut #1.

Yea undisputed. I thought that Estrada fight could have gone either way. Wangek is #1 in the division, but I think there is enough debate there for his claim as the best to be disputed.

I'm going to try have a look for answers to my other question in the thread, about what divisions have the most competition for the #1 spot.

[powerpuncher]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

I disagree, it's because he fought and beat the best in the division. People were high on Gassiev until Usyk schooled him, Briedis is also another top guy. Other divisions the best aren't fighting each other, welter for example.

We should have a clearcut #1 at 118 after the WBSS tourney.

Wangek also fought the top guys and won but because he barely beat Estrada you are saying he isn’t the clear cut #1. So the question seems more to be who is head and shoulders above the rest of their division rather than the clear cut #1.

Yea undisputed. I thought that Estrada fight could have gone either way. Wangek is #1 in the division, but I think there is enough debate there for his claim as the best to be disputed.

I'm going to try have a look for answers to my other question in the thread, about what divisions have the most competition for the #1 spot.

That’s a good question. I would say welterweight 😁

[Alpha]

Usyk may be the only clear cut #1. Wangek seems to be the obvious #1 too. Loma is if Garcia isn’t at lightweight anymore.

I was thinking Wangek, but that Estrada fight was basically fight to a standstill.

If the question is if there is a fighter heads and shoulders above the rest in a division then Usyk is definitely the only one. Part of that reason is because cruiserweight doesn’t have anybody else that good. There are decent fighters there but many other weight classes have at least another guy who is also really good.

I disagree, it's because he fought and beat the best in the division. People were high on Gassiev until Usyk schooled him, Briedis is also another top guy. Other divisions the best aren't fighting each other, welter for example.

We should have a clearcut #1 at 118 after the WBSS tourney.

Wangek also fought the top guys and won but because he barely beat Estrada you are saying he isn’t the clear cut #1. So the question seems more to be who is head and shoulders above the rest of their division rather than the clear cut #1.

Yea undisputed. I thought that Estrada fight could have gone either way. Wangek is #1 in the division, but I think there is enough debate there for his claim as the best to be disputed.

I'm going to try have a look for answers to my other question in the thread, about what divisions have the most competition for the #1 spot.

That’s a good question. I would say welterweight 😁

Ok so I've had a look and these are the divisions I feel have the most competition for the #1 spot:

Light-heavy:
Eleider Alvarez
Adonis Stevenson/ Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Artur Beterbiev
Dmitry Bivol
Badou Jack

Middle: 5
Gennady Golovkin/ Canelo Alvarez
Daniel Jacobs/ Sergiy Derevyanchenko
Billy Joe Saunders
Jermall Charlo

Could add Ryota Murata and Demetrius Andrade

SuperFly:
Wisaksil Wangek
Juan Francisco Estrada
Kazuto Ioka
Jerwin Ancajas
Khalid Yafai

Light-Fly:
Ken Shiro
Hekkie Budler (RSA)
Ryoichi Taguchi (JPN)
Milan Melindo (PHI)
Carlos Canizales

Could add Reiya Konishi