Anthony "HYPE" Joshua won't make it outside UK

[Fenster]

There isn’t much to actually separate the two. Wlad certainly fought better against Aj then he had for quite some time prior, but Ortiz might have pulled off the performance of his life against Wilder, and he’d always had extremely good hands for a hw, however old he is. I don’t think anyone would be confident in predicting how either Waldo vs Ortiz, or wilder vs aj would have gone on those same nights....

I'm confident in saying Wlad would have beat Ortiz and AJ would have annihilated Wilder (unless he got caught whilst finishing him).

Wilder spent most of the Ortiz fight with his right hand cocked, he was controlled with nothing more than a methodical punch output which dropped to virtual zero after round 6? 7?. Ortiz clearly punched himself out, Wilder didn't do anything to turn the fight around.

AJ was outboxing Wlad before he ran into a brick wall but then resumed outboxing him.

Wlad-Ortiz would be a nice boring slow paced boxing match which ultimately the longer, rangier, fitter, younger man would win 10 out of 10.

[smashup]

AJ is the face of DAZN and it's main aim is to crack the US market first which means bringing AJ over to fight there.
These fights surely have to be Prime Time in the US to give their top boy maximum exposure.
Gonna be interesting to see how Hearn handles this, does he piss off the UK fans making us tune in to see our home fighter at silly o clock in the morning to give the best chance of viewing figures in the US, think he's gonna have to.

[Batman]

AJ is the face of DAZN and it's main aim is to crack the US market first which means bringing AJ over to fight there.
These fights surely have to be Prime Time in the US to give their top boy maximum exposure.
Gonna be interesting to see how Hearn handles this, does he piss off the UK fans making us tune in to see our home fighter at silly o clock in the morning to give the best chance of viewing figures in the US, think he's gonna have to.

If it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.

[smashup]

AJ is the face of DAZN and it's main aim is to crack the US market first which means bringing AJ over to fight there.
These fights surely have to be Prime Time in the US to give their top boy maximum exposure.
Gonna be interesting to see how Hearn handles this, does he piss off the UK fans making us tune in to see our home fighter at silly o clock in the morning to give the best chance of viewing figures in the US, think he's gonna have to.

If it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.

Bit thin on the ground though decent US Heavyweights, Wilder is huge and people will tune in at 4am in the UK but who next?
Is Miller gonna do anywhere near those numbers - no chance.
Then it's a rematch with Whyte or a fight with Fury and that's when Hearns in a tricky spot.
2 UK fighters fighting at 4am to satisfy the US market?
They are stadium fights in the UK but.... If doable 80,000 at Wembley at 4am would be mental 😁
I remember being at the MEN for Calzaghe v Lacy which started around 2-3am.
Everyone was shitfaced by midnight 😂

[Fenster]

Wembley is on a curfew, every event needs to be done and dusted by 11pm, otherwise you can't even stage the event.

Those dark days of British boxing having to pander to American TV are long gone. That was the Warren days. Calzaghe-Lacy sold 8000 tickets (which is nothing now), was non-PPV (ITV) which made Lacy's money from Showtime (American TV) valuable enough for Frank to shit on the British fans.

The game is up if you ever see Matchroom/SKY do a British PPV event on American primetime.

[smashup]

Wembley is on a curfew, every event needs to be done and dusted by 11pm, otherwise you can't even stage the event.

Those dark days of British boxing having to pander to American TV are long gone. That was the Warren days. Calzaghe-Lacy sold 8000 tickets (which is nothing now), was non-PPV (ITV) which made Lacy's money from Showtime (American TV) valuable enough for Frank to shit on the British fans.

The game is up if you ever see Matchroom/SKY do a British PPV event on American primetime.

Yeah I remember the MEN was little over half full for JC v Lacy, I think with the recent Fox/Showtime competition Hearn/DAZN are gonna have to get AJ out to the US and they'll have to put him on US Primetime just to compete and remember with Haymons new venture it's gonna be difficult for Hearn to showcase AJ without a clash of fights.
It's already obvious that our yank friends will make it as difficult as possible for Hearn to succeed Stateside.
Hearns got his work cut Big Time.
With the new Haymon deal ready to go I just don't see DAZN pulling in loads of viewers (from scratch) unless they fully pimp the main man in the stable which is Joshua and get him fighting on Primetime US slots.

[ono]

Wembley is on a curfew, every event needs to be done and dusted by 11pm, otherwise you can't even stage the event.

Those dark days of British boxing having to pander to American TV are long gone. That was the Warren days. Calzaghe-Lacy sold 8000 tickets (which is nothing now), was non-PPV (ITV) which made Lacy's money from Showtime (American TV) valuable enough for Frank to shit on the British fans.

The game is up if you ever see Matchroom/SKY do a British PPV event on American primetime.

Yeah I remember the MEN was little over half full for JC v Lacy, I think with the recent Fox/Showtime competition Hearn/DAZN are gonna have to get AJ out to the US and they'll have to put him on US Primetime just to compete and remember with Haymons new venture it's gonna be difficult for Hearn to showcase AJ without a clash of fights.
It's already obvious that our yank friends will make it as difficult as possible for Hearn to succeed Stateside.
Hearns got his work cut Big Time.
With the new Haymon deal ready to go I just don't see DAZN pulling in loads of viewers (from scratch) unless they fully pimp the main man in the stable which is Joshua and get him fighting on Primetime US slots.

I think Boxing is evolving now though. Making it big in the US is not the dream it once was. There isn't really a US fighter making it big in the US now Mayweather has gone. There would be no business sense in getting Joshua to fight in the US really. They'd lose UK PPV money due to the time difference.

Over the next few years, the big fights are in the UK. Whyte, Fury (maybe both), Usyk, and then after that you have Joyce, Dubois. There is only Wilder and Miller who you would really consider from the US at this point in time and both would be UK fights.

I don't think the UK has ever had someone who is so comprehensively the A-side before. We've had guys who spent the majority of their careers as the A-side, but then became the B-side in a mega fight, but there isn't a heavy on the planet who can commercially compete with Joshua.

[walrus]

Wembley is on a curfew, every event needs to be done and dusted by 11pm, otherwise you can't even stage the event.

Those dark days of British boxing having to pander to American TV are long gone. That was the Warren days. Calzaghe-Lacy sold 8000 tickets (which is nothing now), was non-PPV (ITV) which made Lacy's money from Showtime (American TV) valuable enough for Frank to shit on the British fans.

The game is up if you ever see Matchroom/SKY do a British PPV event on American primetime.

Like every country @Fenster your job is to entertain the US. Don’t get it twisted this “long gone” stuff will soon pass

[brocktonblockbust]

Anthony Joshua is a big stupid oak tree that will get chopped down like Michael Grant got shot down and like Andrew golota got shot down he is just a big stupid oak tree and we'll get chopped down the way Frank Bruno got chopped down. Anthony Joshua is just all shoulders and height and bodybuilding shape and nothing more.

[nuggetdotcom]

AJ is the face of DAZN and it's main aim is to crack the US market first which means bringing AJ over to fight there.
These fights surely have to be Prime Time in the US to give their top boy maximum exposure.
Gonna be interesting to see how Hearn handles this, does he piss off the UK fans making us tune in to see our home fighter at silly o clock in the morning to give the best chance of viewing figures in the US, think he's gonna have to.

If it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.

Bit thin on the ground though decent US Heavyweights, Wilder is huge and people will tune in at 4am in the UK but who next?
Is Miller gonna do anywhere near those numbers - no chance.
Then it's a rematch with Whyte or a fight with Fury and that's when Hearns in a tricky spot.
2 UK fighters fighting at 4am to satisfy the US market?
They are stadium fights in the UK but.... If doable 80,000 at Wembley at 4am would be mental 😁
I remember being at the MEN for Calzaghe v Lacy which started around 2-3am.
Everyone was shitfaced by midnight 😂

If you think that Wilder is huge in the UK, what figures do you base that on? His best ever UK viewing figures will be against Fury, then he will go back to low level 'opponents' in the US and be begging for a shot against fury/Joshua/whyte etc. Name any previous wilder fight that has achieved more than 10k viewers ppv in the uk, he's lucky to get that many youtube viewers from this country!

[nuggetdotcom]

AJ is the face of DAZN and it's main aim is to crack the US market first which means bringing AJ over to fight there.
These fights surely have to be Prime Time in the US to give their top boy maximum exposure.
Gonna be interesting to see how Hearn handles this, does he piss off the UK fans making us tune in to see our home fighter at silly o clock in the morning to give the best chance of viewing figures in the US, think he's gonna have to.

If it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.

After Fury sparks hype job Wilder there will be limited UK interest in stateside HW fights, however if Hearn has an interest US locally he can pick up with decent UK fighters against local ex football players until a new breed of true boxers comes thru from the US, may be good for the sport.

[brocktonblockbust]

Little Tony Joshua is a punk. Wow he's fighting a 38 year old. What a great accomplishment this will really show who Joshua is. All the idiots in Wembley will think it is a great accomplishment if little Tony gets taken 12 rounds by 38 year old in the Twilight of his career

Joshua is a bum a mannequin a robot a stiff Frank Bruno like Punk who will get sparked buy both Wilder and fury